Counterparties: This time is entirely normal

October 17, 2012

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How you feel about the American economy right now depends on your answer to one question: are we recovering from a recession or from a financial crisis?

Renowned academics Kenneth Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart aren’t happy with the way a group of economists associated with the Romney campaign are answering this question. “We we have to take issue with gross misinterpretations of the facts,” they write in a Bloomberg op-ed, which summarizes their new white paper (PDF here).

At issue is just how strong America’s recovery has been since 2007. That answer, as Ezra Klein put it, begs the question “compared to what?” Reinhart and Rogoff take aim at Romney advisers Kevin Hassett, Glenn Hubbard and John Taylor, who claim that America’s recovery has been subpar compared those following typical recessions. In a campaign white paper, Hubbard, Taylor and Hassett write: “The historical record is clear: our economy usually recovers quickly from recessions, and the more severe the recession, the faster the catch-up growth”.  

A recession, however, is not the same as a crisis. Reinhart and Rogoff differentiate between a systemic crisis, which is centered on a country’s financial system, and the general ups and downs of the business cycle. (Economies generally recover  relatively quickly from the latter). Nine months before Lehman collapsed, Reinhart and Rogoff write, the US was already displaying signs of a systemic financial crisis, including “a real estate bubble, high levels of debt, chronically large current-account deficits and signs of slowing economic activity”.   

So how does the US recovery compare to other recoveries from big, systemic crises? First, Reinhart and Rogoff argue that recoveries from financial crises are characteristically slow — this was covered in their seminal 2009 book “This Time is Different“. Real per capita GDP took 11 years to recover after the Great Depression; it took five years to recover after the Panic of 1907 and the crises in the late 19th century. We’re four years into the recovery right now, which means that although we still aren’t back to pre-crisis levels, we’re not doing worse than we did before.

Second, they add that US output per capita and employment are doing better than average compared to other countries that suffered recent financial crises. Compared to the periods after other US financial crises, they write, “the recent recovery looks positively brisk”. Paul Krugman agrees with Reinhart and Rogoff’s complaints, saying that the “proposition that financial crises change macroeconomic outcomes is surely one of the big things we’ve learned in recent years”.

A recent study expands on Reinhart and Rogoff’s argument. “This time actually is different – and worse – in one very clear and measurable dimension”, Mortiz Schularick and Alan Taylor write. Excess credit, it turns out, has slowed our economic recovery considerably. Compared to other historical credit busts, they argue, “the US has done quite well.”   

But, could the US recovery have been even quicker? Ezra Klein spoke to Carmen Reinhart, who said: ““I have to wonder whether nationalizing banks during a crisis is the cleanest and swiftest way out. Anything that delays the adjustment, that delays taking the hit, delays the recovery”.  Ryan McCarthy

On to today’s links:

Housing permits and starts are surging — thank Ben Bernanke – Matt Yglesias
Why neither candidate wants to talk about the housing market –

A look at the new headquarters for the world’s largest hedge fund – Stamford Advocate
High-speed traders are now outracing profits –
Why there’s less high frequency trading – Felix

Citigroup’s new CEO likes to quote Spiderman – Bloomberg

What Could Possibly Go Wrong
It’s like “ for kindergartners” – Marketwatch

Negative correlation of the day: stock prices and food stamps – Tim Fernholz

New Normal
The great American middle class paycut – WaPo
A growing body of research suggests inequality hurts economic growth – Annie Lowrey

Big Ideas
Mapping the potential for solar panels on every roof – Atlantic Cities

Throwing out insiders won’t fix corporate boards – Justin Fox

Social Security keeps 21 million Americans out of poverty – Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

How to (almost) understand Chinese economic data – FT Alpaville

It’s Academic
Richard Posner on taxation, wealth and luck – Becker-Posner Blog

Small Victories
BofA ekes out a profit after $1.6 billion in litigation expenses – Dealbook

France’s president is pushing for a ban on homework – WaPo

Why more disclosure has led to less information – Aswath Damodaran

In Case You’re Wondering
The world economy is getting sicker, and the political class is to blame – Clive Crook



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Hard to write a primo-piece, laddy, when the first line is as wide of the mark as this one -

“How you feel about the American economy right now depends on your answer to one question: are we recovering from a recession or from a financial crisis?”

Much more insightful to have asked if we are ‘recovering’ at all, or merely once again creating the fatal illusion of progress by monetary subterfuge. But hey – you’re young. And thanks for the piece -

It provides an entre to say how much I hate how you’ve changed the site, and in doing so displayed an unambiguous contempt for your commenters – you could of at least emulated ATL’s hidden-comments layout. So, at least there’s that. See ya’ ’round – at another site.

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If you think about it, the systemic crisis is two-fold. One is the popping of a credit bubble and a deeply dysfunctional financial system that catalyzed it.

Two is the end-game of the triumvirate forces of digitization, globalization and commoditization, owing to the rise of global broadband. This has disrupted industry after industry (retail + print media to name two) wiping out more US jobs than they create.

Case in point, when print media dies, not only do publishers go away, and the jobs housed within them, but so too go the printers, delivery trucks, publicists, books stores, etc. And this hits regional markets the worst. Simply put, one Amazon, one Apple or one Google does not even remotely replace the jobs that are permanently lost.

That may be the nature of creative destruction, but in systemic terms, it’s gaping hole in the economy whose fix has no clear repair date.

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