Comments on: How not to rank US cities http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/11/29/how-not-to-rank-us-cities/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: AJMango http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/11/29/how-not-to-rank-us-cities/comment-page-1/#comment-44929 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:14:19 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19632#comment-44929 “If you want to do valuable reporting on the cities which are getting things right, then the thing to do is to look at the growth rates of America’s biggest metropolitan areas, see which areas are consistently outperforming, and ask why.”

How is this more valuable Mr. Salmon? Growth rates by what measure? Population growth? jobs? Income? Immigrants from Asia? ALSO, valuable for whom? Immigrants? Middle-class conservatives? Upper-class liberals? Lower-income midwesterners? Conservative southerners? Humor me.

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By: OnkelBob http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/11/29/how-not-to-rank-us-cities/comment-page-1/#comment-44883 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:06:40 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19632#comment-44883 The geographers technique of aggregating is important, and properly aggregating is very important. Waterbury CT is about the same distance from Bridgeport as Greenwich is, and for unknown reasons, The Atlantic chose to group the latter and not the former. Anyone with any geographic sense would note that Bridgeport and Waterbury are far more similar (urban with underused industrial capacity) than either is to Greenwich (Suburban tracts 11 acre zoning). Greenwich has more in common with neighboring Westchester – but because it’s NY state they can’t be combined? No, it’s the model that is wrong. You reduce the weight of the political boundaries between states in these analyses. Can’t do that in Congressional districts, which is why Bridgeport and Greenwich are tied together.

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By: Eericsonjr http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/11/29/how-not-to-rank-us-cities/comment-page-1/#comment-44879 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:13:29 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19632#comment-44879 Ranking cities by GDP doesn’t look to be much different from ranking by population, does it?

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By: minderbender http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/11/29/how-not-to-rank-us-cities/comment-page-1/#comment-44878 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:04:29 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19632#comment-44878 You cut off the league table at an . . . interesting point, since the next city is Minneapolis (a reasonable entry, arguably should be higher) and then the next city is Detroit. Below Detroit are such worse-performing cities as San Diego, Denver, Charlotte, Portland Oregon, and Columbus. Clearly the list isn’t quite capturing our intuitions when it comes to city performance. Of course it’s fine to be counter-intuitive if that’s where the data point, but in this case it’s hard to imagine that Detroit is in any meaningful way doing better than the other cities I’ve listed, so the likelihood is that the measure is flawed.

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By: QCIC http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/11/29/how-not-to-rank-us-cities/comment-page-1/#comment-44877 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:00:41 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19632#comment-44877 Journalists lazy twits who don’t take the time to understand 1% of the topics they are writing on? Say it isn’t so Felix!

I once spent an hour explaining to an economics journalist the intricacies of our state’s labor market for the story they were working on regarding unemployment. Obviously she couldn’t include even a portion of it, but I gave her dozens of small useful and illustrative facts about unemployment in our state and its causes/trends/et cetera, that would educate the reader of her article.

My quote out of a 1 hour interview was basically “unemployment is bad right now”. Worse she incorporated 0% of what I said to her into her article and basically just made things sound as terrible as possible.

That and other identical experiences have led me to only using journalists for my purposes and never trying to help them anymore. They hold themselves up like some noble profession but they are about an eighth of an inch up from used car salesmen. Schlepping lies and sensation for eyeballs and their accompanying ad dollars.

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