Comments on: The impossibility of tablet-native journalism http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: lambertstrether http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-45224 Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:12:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-45224 I had a look Ev Williams’s tablet-based Medium. I can’t figure out if it’s insufferably twee, or the next best thing, or possibly both. Still, it’s interesting.

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By: Zhochaka http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-45023 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:32:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-45023 There’s been a story recently on the British website, The Register, about the creation of the BBC News website. One of the significant things they managed was to connect to the journalism that the BBC does. Right from the start, the website was using the same text resources as the rest of the BBC News operation. A journalist wrote a story, and it could be on radio or television or the web, or all three.

Yes, the BBC has the huge advantage that it doesn’t depend on advertising, but they managed to make the web pages a low cost publication method.

I sometimes have the feeling that a lot of news operations are still trying to catch up with the BBC. Its reputation counts for a lot, and that website, using the same journalism, using the same branding, hardly needed to do anything but work. The Murdoch news empire is big, but it isn’t really a brand in itself. Never mind the quality of the journalism, what is “The Daily”?

The way the technology was used was hardly the only problem.

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By: leoklein http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-45015 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:05:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-45015 This fetishism for separate apps makes about as much sense as requiring people to download separate browsers for every website they visit. To go then and tie it to one manufacturer and model, in this case Apple and the iPad, sets up about as many roadblocks to success as you can imagine.

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By: Oluseyi http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-45003 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:06:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-45003 RE Update 2:

The retort about “tablet-specific journalism” is a cop out. Is there “print-specific journalism”? “Web-specific journalism”? Journalism is journalism; the medium may afford opportunities to enhance the story – visuals, sounds, interaction – but the story is the story, period. As a medium, a tablet is identical to the web: a screen, speakers for audio, touch or a pointer and a (virtual) keyboard for input, a microphone.

The story here is that NewsCorp squandered a tremendous opportunity, not only in terms of publicity, having been launched in partnership with Apple, but in terms of a billing and delivery framework that successfully convinced people to pay for what they can generally get free online.

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By: MrsBeeetle http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-45000 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:37:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-45000 Mmmm..you can’t do exactly the same on a magazine app as the web. You have to download it first – which takes ages. Then you are trapped in the app – which is counter-intuitive to web users. I appreciate the ‘immersive read’ idea of magazine apps, but don’t find the fomat anywhere near as appealing as paper. And I have tried.

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By: tallrob http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-44986 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:12:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-44986 The conclusions reached here are 100% wrong. The Daily’s failure is its own fault, for poor design and execution. There’s no reason news apps can’t be fast and searchable with good content and a great user experience. The Daily wasn’t unsuccessful in obtaining readership, but it was way over budgeted and couldn’t sustain it’s expenses. The app was downloaded 100,000 times. Not bad. But it needed to be a much better experience to get the number of subscribers necessary to sustain the high budget. It can be done better, and the Daily is just one poor example- not proof of the iPad’s suitability, rather proof that news companies need to keep thinking about how to do it right.

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By: BarryKelly http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-44980 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:06:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-44980 Apps can do anything browsers can do, and more. The real problem is that you need to be a software company at heart to do apps well. Looking at app development as an expense will lead to penny pinching that sabotages the product.

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By: ista http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-44977 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:30:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-44977 The issue seems less about the limitations of a tablet and more about how journalism has approached the new medium. It’s not really a question of PC vs. tablet.
No matter the platform, journalism hasn’t solved the puzzle of digital delivery. Open vs. closed. Site-based vs. feed-based. Custom designed vs. responsive.
Print journalism owns the best news content online. But its end product remains a digital mirror of print rather than a new approach that takes advantage of new capabilities.
It’s clear that will change with time; it’s not clear if print journalism can lead that change or if it will follow new leaders.

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By: MyLord http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-44975 Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:51:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-44975 You can’t do on a tablet what you can do on a computer for a simple reason. Companies want to exert control or extract revenue that they have little chance of obtaining on the web. Show me Flash on a tablet. Apple may complain over its bugs even as it pushes an equally buggy Quicktime, but it is really a turf war for control and revenue.

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By: jomiku http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/03/the-impossibility-of-tablet-native-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-44973 Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:03:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=19668#comment-44973 1. Magazines are great on the iPad but the experience of reading an entire issue without connecting to net is separate from connecting and reading bits and pieces. The market for the former is not only limited but unless data plans become more expensive over time that market will decrease. There will be less reason in the future to load all your content for an issue because you will be connected more. So that particular model of the whole issue is not a big winner.

2. Google had year to develop its maps. Apple started over. Not the same thing. You want to write about a business decision: think about whether Google was smart not giving Apple vector based maps and turn-by-turn directions. They drove Apple to make its own maps and lose the search revenue because of what? Then check to see how much Google makes off iOS searches and ask yourself if jeopardizing that was worth it.

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