Comments on: It’s time to air Cooper Union’s dirty laundry http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Nada Nockels http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-55582 Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:25:21 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-55582 A round of applause for your blog article.Thanks Again. Fantastic.

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By: fans for you and me http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-55381 Sat, 18 Oct 2014 04:38:22 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-55381 Sounds good. That is a useful and informative article. Many thanks for sharing these records around.

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By: traduceri daneza romana http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-53626 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 14:01:23 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-53626 I do not even know how I ended up here, but I thought this post was great. I don’t know who you are but definitely you are going to a famous blogger if you are not already Cheers!

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By: Ethan919 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46817 Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:42:23 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46817 While hindsight is always terrific, the need for at least a new engineering school building was very clear to me in 1998. At that time, I took a tour of the school with my two kids, who were looking at colleges at the time.

When we looked at the engineering school, unfortunately, I can only say that the facilities compared very poorly to those of Cooper’s peers. It looked like very little had changed in the 25 years since I graduated, and that made me very sad.

In the end, my kids ended up at Rose-Hulman and Carnegie Mellon. They would not even consider applying to Cooper.

I am very grateful that Cooper’s no tuition policy allowed me to get a degree that I am extremely proud of. But I also know that the world has changed and I would hope that the trustees and alumni would work together to make sure that the school’s finances are stable while also providing the top notch faculty, facilities and equipment that are needed to attract the very best students.

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By: Tom83 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46813 Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:17:23 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46813 If you’re going to claim that the Administration and Trustees are lying, at least try to get the facts straight. Cooper did not sell the Engineering Building, it leased it, just like the land under the Chrysler building.

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By: sv.o http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46806 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:10:17 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46806 Felix, while I share your frustration with much of what’s gone on with Cooper over the past few years, you made an error in characterizing the NYT architecture critic’s review of the NAB; in fact, he said pretty much the opposite of what you said:

“Yes, the glut of high-concept luxury towers was wearisome. But some great civic works were also commissioned in that era. And given the hard economic times, they may be the last we see for quite some time.

The new academic building at the Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art is yet more proof that some great art was produced in those self-indulgent times.”

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By: sv.o http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46805 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:00:10 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46805 Felix, you’ve been doing good work on this topic, but I wanted to make one correction. You say:
The proceeds from that sale failed to remotely cover the costs of building the fancy New Academic Building at 41 Cooper Square — a building which the NYT’s architecture critic, Nicolai Ourourssoff, declared upon its opening to be an icon of the “self-indulgent” “Age of Excess”.

I share your consternation over the cost of the “NAB” w.r.t. this current fiscal crisis, but the NYT architecture critic’s opinion of the building is pretty much the opposite of how you paint it:
Yes, the glut of high-concept luxury towers was wearisome. But some great civic works were also commissioned in that era. And given the hard economic times, they may be the last we see for quite some time.

The new academic building at the Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art is yet more proof that some great art was produced in those self-indulgent times.

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By: cooperalumnus http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46804 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:51:51 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46804 As an alumus of Cooper Union, I am very distressed by the new tuition policy.In the meantime,as a CUNY engineering professor involved with the free-tuition Macaulay honors college, I pledge to provide an excellent interdisciplinary engineering program to all of the 2014 freshman who wanted to go to Cooper Union but choose to come to CUNY. I am just sad that they will not be getting a Cooper degree.

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By: ME78 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46800 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:11:14 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46800 In 1974, the trustees finished renovating the Foundation Building. Blaming falling stock prices, and shortage of funds, they cancelled scholarships of students who had earned CU 4 year scholarships to pursue math and physics degrees. Math & Physics didn’t use the Foundation bldg.
Remaining Engineers used a plain building at 51 Astor place for over 30 years.Trustees wanted an architectural showpiece & promiseed to Make Money re-purposing the 51 AStor property for residential & Commercial.So we have the only building still standing in NYC that looks like it was hit by a plane; but it’s LEED. CU could never afford it. The trustees should be opening their wallets or going to jail for making a mess & feigning surprise.

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By: replies http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/24/its-time-to-air-cooper-unions-dirty-laundry/comment-page-1/#comment-46782 Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:43:25 +0000 https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=21467#comment-46782 What’s astonishing is the amount of wrong information stated in this article.

the school did not sell the property where the new building is going up. They lease the land to the developer for about $97million and will get about $2,000,000 per year from the taxes on the building ongoing.

The New academic building that other critics hailes as one of the 10 best buildings on the planet when it was built, was paid for by the money from the ground lease, $60,000,000 in donations in the form of naming opportunities, and the value of the new tax revenue stream mentioned above. The two older buildings that were taken down were going to need 10’s of millions of dollars in renovations to make them comply with building codes.

The cost of the New Academic Building, per square foot, is well within line with new construction costs, and cannot be deemed excessive in any way. With that the building has also been give a Platinum LEED Certification for sustainability (the highest level).

No trustee has resigned in shame because they made the right decision to secure the future of the school as difficult as it was to make. Nothing shameful about that.

There are many other untruths as well.
No one should ever trust the author of this article again. He apparently doesn’t see the need to fact check.

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