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By: AdvocatesDevil http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/07/02/financial-innovation-of-the-day-winklevii-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-47570 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 23:02:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=22198#comment-47570 1. Start asking the kind of questions you ask here about the ability of a bitcoin to store value, and next thing you know you’ll be asking the same questions about most of the major world currencies (including USD), and the answers aren’t that different. Yes, the “full faith and credit…” and so on and so forth, but if/when it ever comes to the point where that backing is truly needed, is the same moment where it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on.

2. If you’re going to criticize, think a few steps into the future. You’re standing on the sidelines throwing mud at the first few moves of a chess match. Please, intelligently debate how bitcoin & new methods of payment/currency might play out, but this article is simply a weather report on what’s already happened. No value added.

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By: indio007 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/07/02/financial-innovation-of-the-day-winklevii-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-47569 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:54:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=22198#comment-47569 Ripple is doing the full-court press trying to FUD Bitcoin to death.

It isn’t going to work. No matter how many ignorant journalists like this one you employee.

Especially ones that say dumb stuff like.

“an asset which is probably illegal under US law”
There is ZERO evidence of that.

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By: HeyJay http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/07/02/financial-innovation-of-the-day-winklevii-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-47567 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 13:23:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=22198#comment-47567 Gotta say, this seems highly biased at this point – not what I’d expect from a Reuters journalist from what I remember of their reputation. The second you label something ‘stupid’ in an article, you’re dismissing all the value without actually discussing why.

Saying bitcoin will definitely be banned because of X in the states is incredibly short sighted – first, because it assumes the states regulatory laws rule the world, and second because you’re ruling out innovation as something we’ve outlawed. There are some very good arguments against banning bitcoin in the states – mostly that the arguments FOR banning it are silly in themselves. For instance, banning it because it can be used to launder money loses its steam when you consider that paper money can also be just as effectively used to launder money.

I wont get into every possible argument here but – as a reporter – you may want to soften your tone. Many products look to be on shaky ground when they first come out – until they are accepted and laws adapt to the new way of doing things. Has twenty years of software developments taught you nothing? I’m not sure of bitcoin myself, but I know better than to dismiss it outright.

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By: Opethian http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/07/02/financial-innovation-of-the-day-winklevii-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-47564 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:17:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=22198#comment-47564 The currency of choice by the black market.

Remind me again what currency HSBC was caught helping the drug cartels with, in the trillions? US DOLLARS. Still the currency of choice of everyone. Including the baddies.

This article totally ruined my Friday morning.

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By: CasualSophist http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/07/02/financial-innovation-of-the-day-winklevii-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-47554 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:19:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=22198#comment-47554 I’d like to (slightly) defend BlackRock here: the “alarming” dislocations from NAV weren’t — for the most part — in stock ETFs… they were in muni or other fixed income ETFs.

Liquidity and trading activity in some of the underlying is vary sparse, potentially on the order of one trade of size (or less!) per day. In that VERY PARTICULAR case, I could agree with BlackRock. Next time random series of municipality GO bonds trades, it will mark down 5 points and — like magic? — the NAV will come back in line without the price of the ETF “correcting” back to it.

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By: EwoutDVP http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/07/02/financial-innovation-of-the-day-winklevii-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-47549 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:31:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=22198#comment-47549 “Price of bitcoins then, on April 11: $165. Price of bitcoins today: $90.”

I’m sorry, but this what is wrong with a lot of journalists – and you are no exception, unfortunately. If you would zoom out only a little bit you would see that the value of bitcoin has been rising exponentially for years – the Winklevii started buying when they were still in the single digits only a year ago. There have been three hype-cycles with a boom and bust, but the value has ended up higher than before every time. At the current price, the value of bitcoin has risen 600% throughout the past six months alone.

Yet, you choose to pick a specific period which perfectly fits your narrative.

Ah well, it’s all good. I still respect you, I just think you are very wrong on this specific subject, and I do suspect you will learn that some day. I just hope you will keep your mind open enough to maybe change it at some point in the future, instead of insisting to prove your own right by disseminating Fear, uncertainty and doubt for some time to go – like many would.

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