Opinion

Felix Salmon

BP: Now more evil than Goldman Sachs

Felix Salmon
Jun 23, 2010 20:55 UTC

There will be rejoicing in the corridors of Goldman Sachs tonight: BP has finally overtaken it in the most-loathed company stakes! Yes, Goldman is still plumbing depths rarely seen in the modern era. But BP, even after putting aside $20 billion and grovelling to the president, continues to implode: it’s now hit a level of -47.6 in the latest BrandIndex poll. That’s not far from Toyota’s low point, which was -52.7 at the end of March, but it’s going to be a much harder fight back for BP than it was for Toyota.

It’s amusing to remember that earlier this year BrandZ put out a piece of glossy research saying that the BP brand was the 34th most valuable brand in the world, worth $17.283 billion. (Love the specificity there.) Is it possible for a brand to have negative value? If so, BP has probably achieved that distinction at this point.

Meanwhile, for those of you keeping count, BrandZ put the value of the Toyota brand at $21.769 billion, post-recall, while the Goldman Sachs brand was worth $9.283 billion, up a whopping 25% from 2009. How quickly these things can change.

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COMMENT

Also interesting is how the brand value of Toyota is steadily recovering. 6 months later and $30bn higher. BP needs to plug that hole and just have patience.

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BP: Still not as evil as Goldman Sachs

Felix Salmon
Jun 11, 2010 14:46 UTC

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I love this chart from BrandIndex, showing responses to the question “If you’ve heard anything about the brand in the last two weeks, was it positive or negative?”.

To get a score of -40, where Goldman Sachs seems to have fallen to, you’d need 70 people saying they were hearing negative stuff about the bank for every 30 saying they’d heard something positive. BP’s not there yet: I do wonder who’s hearing positive things about them.

But it’s interesting that BP was cruising along happily in positive territory until the spill, while Goldman has been negative for all of the past year. And both have deteriorated significantly in the past couple of months. Chances are there will be some kind of reversion to mean in the future in both cases, but it seems that BP has more upside than Goldman, whose public reputation is likely to stay in tatters for the foreseeable future.

COMMENT

Point One, GS was exposed on AIG. Point 2, the culture within GS was either morally bankrupt (ie encouraged the fabulous Fabrice) or morally vacuous (no way to control or rein in FF)
Point 3 VC firms go bust and they have an idea to exploit the product. What products have GS brought to market? (I am choosing to ignore the point that GS is not (properly understood) a VC firm.
Point 4, GS had inside information on Lehman’s (who do you think was briefing against them????) and helped to encourage their demise.
Point 5. When Buffett invested his money in Goldman, it makes me wonder which is worse: being the pimp or the prostitute?
Point 6. life inside GS is not a bed of roses and does not create well rounded corporate citizens. Instead one finds Hobbessian citizen who has no allegiance except to the partnership in the hopes that one day they can be included in the partnership.
Point 7. Would BP have been in as much trouble if it had its ex-employees embedded in DC or the Obama Administration? Can you imagine the outrage and hysteria if Ken Salazar had been the ex CEO of BP? Think about it, BP has done LESS to America and the world economy than Goldman Sachs and the other investment bankers. Nature will take care of itself, but who will replenish all the empty pension funds drained by the special vehicles created by GS and Co?

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The Roubini rebrand

Felix Salmon
Dec 2, 2009 18:13 UTC

I’ve always had a soft spot for the original logo, dataing back to when Roubini Global Economics first launched at rgemonitor.com in April 2005:

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Soon, however, it turned blue, although the monitor lizard remained:

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And then it got even more gussied up:

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Now, the lizard’s gone entirely, and the RGE Monitor name seems to be on the outs too. The brand is just Roubini Global Economics, at Roubini.com:

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It even has a shadowy version:

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The good news is that the silly little ™ sign seems to have disappeared. In any case, I guess that all talk about separating the RGE brand from Nouriel Roubini himself has gone by the wayside, and that they’re happy that Paul Krugman is referring to RGE strategist Arnab Das as “the Roubini people”. It’s Nouriel’s global economy, everybody else is just people.

Update: tentakles suggests that the new logo should have been a monitor lizard ripping the flesh from a vampire squid. File under “missed opportunities”, I guess.

COMMENT

My guess is that they ripped it off from Mozilla/Netscape for the digital age look, and thought it was tongue-in-cheek because of Gordon Gecko “Greed is good.”Did we ever figure out where he was really born? Turkey, or Iran? He has given conflicting reports. And who is his Mossad liaison?

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