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Felix Salmon

Deflation and negative TIPS yields

Felix Salmon
Aug 13, 2010 14:07 EDT

In one of those classic understated TBI headlines, Vincent Fernando today says that “Actually You Should Panic” if TIPS yields go positive. His argument: “if TIPS yields hadn’t fallen to where they are now, then we’d truly have something to worry about — Deflation.”

The problem is, Fernando’s math doesn’t add up. Expected annualized inflation, over the next five years, is equal to the yield on 5-year government bonds, minus the yield on 5-year TIPS. (We’ll ignore things like the liquidity premium for on-the-run Treasuries.) The 5-year Treasury bond is currently yielding 1.47%, so if the 5-year TIPS yield is slightly negative, that puts expected inflation at about 1.5%. On the other hand, if the 5-year TIPS yield were up at 0.5%, then that would put expected inflation at 1%. Which does not count as Deflation, and is certainly nothing to Panic about.

Of course, it is a bit more complicated than that. For one thing, we’re talking about average inflation over five years, which given that inflation rates tend to bounce around a bit, might well mean a brief amount of time in negative territory. But that, again, isn’t the kind of deflation to panic about.

Meanwhile, deflation does provide one technical reason why negative TIPS yields aren’t necessarily as weird as they look. If we do have a brief bout of deflation, then TIPS coupons will be zero — which is actually positive in real terms. TIPS investors never need to give money back to Treasury. So it’s not necessarily true that you’re getting a negative real coupon: if there’s negative consumer price inflation for any length of time over the next five years, the zero bound on coupon payments might even things out. There’s also a lower bound of 100 on principal repayments, which may or may not come into play depending on the price/yield at which you buy your bonds.

So really, negative TIPS yields can be taken as a sign that the markets are beginning to price in some brief dip into negative-inflation territory. They’re not a sign that the markets are expecting no deflation.

COMMENT

Efficient market types take prices from the market (which must be right, har har) and infer things about the real world. Like inflation.

Ok, so we learned that Internet stock prices don’t reflect their true value. We learned that house prices don’t reflect their true value. We learned that Greek bonds prices didn’t reflect their true value.

Yet somehow we keep believing that markets prices are rational. Prices are just prices.

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The inflation permahawks

Felix Salmon
Sep 8, 2009 10:14 EDT

Jim Surowiecki has a good column on inflation this week:

Why are people afraid that inflation is about to get out of control? Because they’re always afraid that inflation is about to get out of control.

He’s right: it’s hard to find someone who’s worried about inflation right now who isn’t always worried about inflation. If you stay worried about inflation for decades, of course, eventually you’ll be able to claim justification. But I’d take you much more seriously on the subject of inflation today if you hadn’t told me all the way through the Fed rate cuts of 2007 and 2008 that each one was about to unleash monster inflation and was a Really Bad Idea. If we’d been listening to the likes of Barry Ritholtz, we’d still have Fed funds at 5% today.

COMMENT

“If you stay worried about inflation for decades, of course, eventually you’ll be able to claim justification.”

And why exactly is that a true statement? It’s true because there would be, essentially, undetectible inflation if the gub’mint were not debasing our currency for the last 30+ years.

For the first 150+ years of our nation, there was NO inflation, because the government budgeted within its means, something none of us have ever witnessed.

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Another reason why inflation is a good idea

Felix Salmon
Apr 7, 2009 05:32 EDT

Megan McArdle is unhappy with the state of green consumption:

When I look back at almost every “environmentally friendly” alternative product I’ve seen being widely touted as a cost-free way to lower our footprint, held back only by the indecent vermin at “industry” who don’t care about the environment, I notice a common theme: the replacement good has really really sucked compared to the old, inefficient version.

(Scare quotes Megan’s, natch.)

The problem, as Megan admits, is that she’s looking at the “cost-free” replacements: the bottom-of-the-line green products which can be used to replace legacy products which are the result of decades of development and economies of scale. It’s hardly surprising that these first- and second-generation products can’t compete on price.

But my feeling is not that the new products are too expensive, so much as that the old products are too cheap. That’s certainly the case with food: chicken, beef, and other corn byproducts — including the famous high-fructose corn syrup — are so underpriced that their cultivation is destroying the planet and causing mass obesity.

And more generally, the story of both Greenspan bubbles is that the Fed was happy to bring interest rates down to extremely low levels because of the massive amounts of disinflation being imported to the US by China (again, at huge environmental cost).

My hope is that the world which emerges from the present crisis will be one where goods, in general, have a price which is commensurate with their cost. I remember walking down Broadway last year, in Soho, and overhearing a woman coming out of H&M explaining to her friend that the clothes there were great: they were so cheap that you could wear them once and simply throw them away, without having to worry about how they stood up to washing or dry-cleaning. And although it was easy to conjure up lots of high moral dudgeon to direct at the woman in question, the fact is that incentives matter, and the prices at H&M were clearly incentivizing her to feel that way: as a general rule, it’s not good for the planet when a frock costs roughly the same as the cost of dry-cleaning it.

So it would be great to have some targeted inflation here: not just to help solve the housing mess, but also to bring the cost of many everyday products up to a point at which people become much more careful about using them — and much more inclined, too, to pick a green alternative.

COMMENT

inflation is a good idea for banks and funds managers; for 90% of the population as well as for the REAL economy, the inflation is destructive

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