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11:58 April 17th, 2008

MoveOn.org criticizes debate between Clinton, Obama as “gotcha”

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WASHINGTON - MoveOn.org is taking aim at ABC News over Wednesday night’s Democratic presidential debate between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, arguing the network’s moderators trivialized the issues in the campaign by asking “gotcha” questions. rtr1zkm4.jpg

The liberal activist group, which supports Obama, has posted a petition on its Web site and promises to run an ad protesting ABC if it gets 100,000 people to sign the petition.

During a nearly two-hour debate, Obama frequently found himself on the defensive as the moderators grilled him about his fiery pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his relationship with a 1960s radical and his failure to wear a lapel flag pin.

The Illinois senator was also asked about his remarks earlier this month to a San Francisco fundraiser in which he said small-town Pennsylvanians “cling to guns or religion” because they are frustrated with their economic woes.

Clinton, his Democratic rival, and Arizona Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, have criticized Obama over the small-town voter comments. Obama has said his words were ill-chosen.

“Moderators George Stephanopoulos and Charlie Gibson spent the first 50 minutes obsessed with distractions that only political insiders care about –verbal gaffes, polling numbers, the stale Rev. Wright story, and the old-news Bosnia story,” MoveOn.org said in a statement.

The group also accused the moderators of “channeling Karl Rove” for asking Obama if he loves the American flag.

In Raleigh, N.C., Obama also expressed frustration with the debate, saying “it took us 45 minutes before we started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people.”  

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61 comments so far

Clearly, America is a country that is run by a select group of extremely wealthy individuals whose main purpose is to suppress the consciousness of the people in order to maintain control. They will never ever speak to real issues of real people because they are selfish, greedy and calculating. Pointing out real issues would require them to be accountable, and the fact of the matter is ABC, its parent corporations, advertisers and alike don’t have to worry about health care (or the lack thereof), mortgages, utilities and the rising cost of gas. So I ask you; why on earth would they talk about that?

- Posted by Michelene Erwin

…all to protect life,liberty and pursuit of bitterness.
Life can be ended in Iraq
Liberty can be lost in Iraq.
Unless we specifically now know how we unconditionally disengage our current embedding . Our Soldiers embedded with our “loyals” will wind up
at gunpoint of an another trying to make their way home.
So ” bring them home ” or better “bring them home alive”
is a lot quicker screamed than done !!

- Posted by hlg

ABC should be embarrassed by that ridiculous spectacle they aired. And, Hillary has a very short memory, now criticizing moveon.org which originally organized as a group to help prevent impeaching President Bill Clinton by organizing a movement to censure and “move on” and drop it …get on to the important matters of state. The group consists of everyday citizens who believe in this country and the need to focus on our citizens and our government policies. VOTE OBAMA ‘08 !!!
MoveOn.org supports Obama and that is why Clinton has done a total reversal. Unfortunately, she is no better than the typical politician willing to do and say anything to get what she wants. Aren’t we all sick of that?

Clinton’s LIES

McCAIN’S DEMENTIA AND DRAFT since he will be in the middle east for 100 years, he will be forced to reactivate the DRAFT. If you are young, pay attention when you vote !!!!!!!! OBAMA ‘08

- Posted by 4nola27

While I agree that the media in general have appeared to be more interested in stirring up controversy to gain ratings than providing information to their viewers about the candidates. But that said, it is important to question the candidates on confusing or controversial remarks they make, or questionable liaisons they maintain. The debates are interviews for the top job of the land, and a range of questions are required. I believe most citizens are now aware of the similarities and differences between Senators Clinton and Obama, but the candidates must have an opportunity to reiterate and elaborate on their positions at every opportunity to allow the people to understand and make an informed decision as to which Democrat will be able to (1) protect our nation against another terrorist attack, (2) contain nuclear proliferation among rogue and enemy states, (3) apply diplomacy in a deft and appropriate manner, (4) resolve our very serious economic situation, (5) achieve universal healthcare, (6) elevate our educational system, (7) turn around global warming and other environmental issues, (8) solve the immigration issue, (9) protect Roe V. Wade, (10) defend the rights of women and minority groups, and (11) a host of additional issues. To date, Senator Clinton has demonstrated that she has the knowledge, experience, track record, connections, and tenacity and will to plan and execute the path to success on each of these issues. While Senator Obama has accomplished some good things in his short time in government service, he has not convinced me that he possesses the knowledge or experience to govern this nation; indeed, he has stated that he would be a very different President than Hillary Clinton in that he would adopt a figurehead position to provide inspiration and surround himself with the right people to get the job done. This is very different than Hillary’s hands-on approach to governing. We who have worked for large corporations know the difference between a CEO who is a figurehead and one who is involved with the management of the company. The figurehead usually does not know what is going on in his company, and this is where things can go wrong. These are the points that debates and interviews should reveal. We know who Hillary hobnobs with and who are likely to be in her cabinet. But, who would President Obama select for his cabinet — Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whom he loves and admires, or Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground? We need to know the answers to these questions. On the one hand the debate and interview moderators ask ridiculous personal questions and on the other they do not go far enough. A balance in the debates and interviews is sorely needed.

- Posted by Jeanne

Moveon.org is SOOOO good at whining. We know next to NOTHING about B.O. and now that people are starting to ask tough qestions do we need this stupid group to whine about it??? WE are talking the PRESIDENCY, people! HELLOOOO?!?

- Posted by jaybird

I had to turn the debate off because it was so childish. Senator Obama is sincere and honest and intelligent. He stumbled because he is accustomed to debating issues and not trivia. Why does the press do this? They must believe that the viewing public has the interests of a fifth grader. Well here is a news flash, we have far weightier concerns than the questions the moderators kept asking. I hope Senator Obama does not appear on a debate again. Enough worthless retoric is enough.

- Posted by Donna Preston

You leftists think that if the “issues” are discussed rather than “trivial” questions that reveal BHO as a radical Marxist who hates America you will be in a better position to win in November. When America finds out what you really stand for and think along with your “policies” you will be doomed forever. So go ahead: let’s discuss the “issues”

- Posted by allen wahl

This debate is a proof of how an “equal time” rule can be rendered totally unfair, depending on the questions asked.

When MOST of the questions up front are direct attacks (however juvenile) on one candidate, and softballs at another, remember that it takes longer to respond to attacks thoughtfully, than it takes to lob bumper-sticker sized accusations, however false they are. Watch the debate yourself to see which is which, and also remember that one of the questioners was a former Clinton White House staff member.
I think it was shameful to make Barack Obama have to try to repeatedly teach the 3 idiots surrounding him on stage (yes that is an accurate head count), about the fallacy of Republican manufactured political issues. All Hillary proved is that she can manufacture false issues about as well as any Republican, which makes me question what party she’s really fighting for. I’m sure Obama was quite tired of repeating himself, by the time they got around to any REAL issues. By then Hillary had built up plenty of “equal time”. I think they deliberately forced Barack Obama to repeat what was obvious to almost everyone off-stage (excluding you blind Hillary supporters of course) up front, so that Hillary would get more “equal time” when the real questions started later.

@Sunny Florida, Matt, Lisa, and Jen: Your idea of “tough questions”, as well as ABC’s, leave a LOT to be desired. Asking a former community organizer and civil rights lawyer, standing next to a rich lobby-backed corporate lawyer and ex-Walmart board member, about what constitutes “elitism” certainly doesn’t qualify. Nor does made-up dress codes involving Chinese-Made flag pins qualify as a question about “patriotism”. That is, unless you’re one of those “patriotism is how you dress, not how you act” idiots. If you think those questions qualify as “tough” or “important”, I believe you belong in the Republican party, along with the rest of the multi-national corporation lobby puppets.

- Posted by Fred

The division in the party isn’t the candidates’ fault - they’re doing what candidates do. It isn’t the voters’ fault - they’re allowed to be divided. Democracy is a good thing right? But too little in this primary has been about democracy.

The DNC has caused it, with not only this FL and MI nightmare, but what Dean is doing right now, in trying to stifle the voices of the remaining voters. The media is doing it, by taking sides, slanting coverage, and focusing almost exclusively on rubbish. And the powerful democratic political action groups and other organizations, like moveon.org, dailykos, democraticundergroud, etc. are doing it, by only furthering the agenda of half the party and spitting in the face of the other half. Folks, remember these are the very people who keep saying this primary is divisive and must be ended! NO, THEY DON’T DECIDE ELECTIONS, WE DO! If we give our power to them, we’ll never get it back!

Obama can dish it out, but he sure can’t take it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JNq7-aNI iM

Listen to Richardson at around 2:00 min.

Not to mention Obama’s a hypocrite:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/ obamas_oil_spill.html

She’s been getting hammered at all the debates, and suddenly Obama gets an equal amount of tough questions and the whining is deafening.

- Posted by Teri B.

I think the debate was an embarrassment to the voters.
So, it is about time now to direct questions to both candidates about Issues & Problems Americans want to hear of & know how either candidate was ready to resolve after
becoming a President.
Who is Sen.Clinton any way to be asked whether she believed that Senator B.Obama were electable or not? She is full of
B.S. & therefore believes to be the only electable candidate nowadays!!

- Posted by Jean Michel Nehme

I do not think Obama was weak during the “gotcha” debate that was just held. I think he purposely held back because I hate to say this — there is a gender issue that he is aware of (that is why I think he will do well against McCain) — it would not help him to attack Hillary! People do not like seeing men attack women. Hillary knows this. He will not need to have the same restraint against another man. Hillary could have taken the higher road many times past and showed herself to have principles. Fighting is acceptable when done fairly. Also, when has it become the job of yellow journalism to decide for the voters if any party candidate is electable?

- Posted by Maria Weiland

Hey USA folks!

Hillary is a “SCREECHING” old foggy who makes more promises than “Carter” has pills and then has the audacity to claim that she’s more qualified to answer a telephone call @ 3AM during a national emergency than Obama!

Gimme a break!

- Posted by Jim Davis

Not sure if the politicians were asking the questions or answering them: Dems Debate or Reps Ruse.

- Posted by John Fulton

America does not have a television news media anymore.

What we have is infotainment. Gibson and Stuffen-envelopes — like Katie Couric, Wolf Blitzer and Bill O’Reilly — and all the other sideshow barkers and carnival caricaturists who populate the airwaves are not journalists. They are infotainers.

Politicians should stop appearing on these programs. Doing so is an insult to voters and an insult to American democracy. The league of women voters should instead host internet debates, or debates on C-span and public television. Let the infotainers amuse themselves with Britney and Branjolina, and let the adults get some real news and information for a change.

- Posted by Laure

Federal Reserve is bailing out billionaire stock traders, weakening the dollar in the process

We’ve cut and run from Afghanistan and let bin Laden escape to Pakistan.

We’re spending $10 billion a month in Iraq.

Social Security is heading toward Insolvency.

Gas is approaching $4/gallon.

Industrial plants are moving to Canada to take advantage of free Universal Health care.

The US Economy is collapsing.

Global Climate change is looming.

World food prices are sending millions into starvation.

…..so lets spend an hour of national network television coverage on lapel pins and retired preachers.

If you want some good gotcha questions, how about these:

How are your planning to get out of Iraq?
How can we afford to stay in Iraq?
What do you plan to do about Global Climate Change?
What are you going to do to rebuild our conventional military forces?
How do you plan on fulfilling our promises and obligations to our troops that are currently being denied.
Explain how you are going to provide health care for the 50 million Americans that are uninsured.
What do you plan to do to mitigate the coming economic crisis?
What will you do to undo the damage that has been done to our International reputation?
Specifically how will you help to restore our constitutional rights? Eliminate torture and extraordinary rendition? Roll back the presidential signing statements.

These people are trying to get us to make one of them president. Let’s cut the crap and start forcing them to address important issues that affect us all.

- Posted by Pilgrim

To me, it’s not a matter of “who won the debate” but, rather, how poorly the debate was run. [Ridiculous questions -- posed to both candidates -- about trivial matters does not a good debate make.]
I tuned in to learn more about where both candidates stand on the many issues concerning America. Sadly, between the tabloid rehash and all the commercials that were aired all I learned was 1) why ABC’s ratings have gone down, 2) that Stephanopoulos should stick with his day job, and 3) that I wasted my time.

- Posted by Aida.

The bit about the flag lapel pin was one of the most ridiculous “arguments” I’ve ever heard; after hearing that, I expected to see coverage of the next Britney episode (would be as relevant).

“W” often wears a flag lapel pin & look what he’s done to his country & its reputation around the world - for heaven’s sake, GET REAL!!!

- Posted by Chris Grogan

One thing people are forgetting is that during one of the early Republican debates is that CNN spent about 40 minutes on immigration which was proceeded by a special on the subject during, you guessed it, Lou Dobbs. ABC’s forum– er, debate– was just another example as to why nobody trusts the media anymore. The Big 5 corporations that control the media have their own interests, not the peoples, and have gradually become Foxified. Look if you’re not going to vote for a person over a lapel pin, chances are you weren’t going to vote for that person anyway, there is something wrong with you, and you’re an idiot who shouldn’t follow politics anyway. This was a waste of time and ABC should be getting blasted for it’s shody journalism.

- Posted by Travis

Has anyone been watching the debates for the last year or so?? They came at Hillary with everything they could get their hands on and lobbed it at her!! We were so Awestruck by Obama that he was not asked the same tough questions or treated in the same aggressive manner. One of these 2 will be the PRESIDENT and I want to know RIGHT NOW who they are, under pressure, not under pressure, winning, losing etc. Obama choked, pure and simple, unsure, unprepared to be asked and treated like the candidate for President he is. If you can’t take it now, you are not the right man for the job. Who someone associates themselves with, goes to church with, does business with tells reveals alot about them, and being unwilling or even evasive about those associations tells even move about them. Please, Look at the Whole Person, not just the novel, new and pretty parts. Obama is extremely appealing, but will people really vote for him?
Can he win against McCain? How much do we want these lunatics out of the White House and our country back. Please think about these issues, because it is what it will all come down to.

- Posted by Lisa

You have got to be kidding me. Earth to Moveon - Hillary’s a big girl, Barrack’s a big boy. Trust me, they can sit at the adult table now and take the hard questions. Do you really think that, once either of them becomes President, they won’t be faced with these types of questions every single day? Have you never seen the Washington media in action?

Blame SNL - Their the ones who embarrassed the media over their fawning over Barrack.

- Posted by Matt

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