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		<title>By: republican</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/05/17/clinton-in-the-past-tense-almost-with-obama/#comment-361231</link>
		<dc:creator>republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sola hit the nail on the head,Clintn suporters cant bring themselves to vote for a black guy.The fact is that they have no choice than to vote for him or give Bush a third term with no changes in our lifes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sola hit the nail on the head,Clintn suporters cant bring themselves to vote for a black guy.The fact is that they have no choice than to vote for him or give Bush a third term with no changes in our lifes.</p>
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		<title>By: francine223</title>
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		<dc:creator>francine223</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'FDR' Floridians Demonstrating for Delegation's Rights: Rules Committee Meeting Secretly To Avoid Them?

May 20, 2008 (LPAC)--When the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee meets in Washington, D.C. May 31, Floridians demanding the seating of their elected delegates at the Democratic National Convention will be demonstrating in the nation's capital, representing 157,000 signers (so far) on a petition to uphold the delegation's rights. But they can't find where Howard Dean's DNC will hold this "open, public" meeting. The DNC appears to be resorting to secrecy to avoid being pressed on the rights of Florida's and Michigan's delegates.

According to Jim Hannagan, the state chair of Florida Demands Representation (FDR), a member of a coalition of groups demanding that the Florida delegates elected in the state's Democratic Party Primary be accorded and seated in accordance with the primary vote. The Democratic Party Rules and Bylaws Committee, which is expected to take up that issue, will meet at an undisclosed location in violation of Open Party rules adopted in 1964. Hannagan, who is organizing a demonstration of at least 1,000 Floridians in Washington, D.C that day, and will raise the issue at the "open" meeting, says he cannot learn its location or what the procedure is for attending it, although by Party rules it must be open to the public.

Hannagan said his group, which endorses neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama, is also planning a series of "Respect Our Votes" demonstrations at campaign stops which Obama will make throughout Florida this week, to demand that he support the seating of the Florida delegation, and that all the votes cast be counted. "FDR" will also build demonstrations throughout the country on May 31 to coincide with the flagship demonstration in Washington. The organization is updating its plans on its website, http://www.floridademandsrepresentation.org

In a petition being circulated among registered voters of both parties, the group declares that the Democratic National Committee, in not recognizing the Florida primary vote, is acting counter to due process and democratic principles, and is engaging in an act of disenfranchisement, and warns that the resulting alienation of voters, who acted in good faith when they cast their votes, may result in protest votes for non-Democratic Presidential candidates.

As of May 9, some 157,080 Floridians had signed the petition, and 1,037 FDR volunteers were actively organizing throughout the state.

Hannagan reported that a recent FDR survey of Florida voters shows that the failure to resolve the issue is causing increased polarization; and that 15-20% of those who took part in the survey are planning to leave the Party. Florida is considered a key swing state in the November Presidential election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;FDR&#8217; Floridians Demonstrating for Delegation&#8217;s Rights: Rules Committee Meeting Secretly To Avoid Them?</p>
<p>May 20, 2008 (LPAC)&#8211;When the DNC&#8217;s Rules and Bylaws Committee meets in Washington, D.C. May 31, Floridians demanding the seating of their elected delegates at the Democratic National Convention will be demonstrating in the nation&#8217;s capital, representing 157,000 signers (so far) on a petition to uphold the delegation&#8217;s rights. But they can&#8217;t find where Howard Dean&#8217;s DNC will hold this &#8220;open, public&#8221; meeting. The DNC appears to be resorting to secrecy to avoid being pressed on the rights of Florida&#8217;s and Michigan&#8217;s delegates.</p>
<p>According to Jim Hannagan, the state chair of Florida Demands Representation (FDR), a member of a coalition of groups demanding that the Florida delegates elected in the state&#8217;s Democratic Party Primary be accorded and seated in accordance with the primary vote. The Democratic Party Rules and Bylaws Committee, which is expected to take up that issue, will meet at an undisclosed location in violation of Open Party rules adopted in 1964. Hannagan, who is organizing a demonstration of at least 1,000 Floridians in Washington, D.C that day, and will raise the issue at the &#8220;open&#8221; meeting, says he cannot learn its location or what the procedure is for attending it, although by Party rules it must be open to the public.</p>
<p>Hannagan said his group, which endorses neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama, is also planning a series of &#8220;Respect Our Votes&#8221; demonstrations at campaign stops which Obama will make throughout Florida this week, to demand that he support the seating of the Florida delegation, and that all the votes cast be counted. &#8220;FDR&#8221; will also build demonstrations throughout the country on May 31 to coincide with the flagship demonstration in Washington. The organization is updating its plans on its website, <a href="http://www.floridademandsrepresentation.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.floridademandsrepresentation. org</a></p>
<p>In a petition being circulated among registered voters of both parties, the group declares that the Democratic National Committee, in not recognizing the Florida primary vote, is acting counter to due process and democratic principles, and is engaging in an act of disenfranchisement, and warns that the resulting alienation of voters, who acted in good faith when they cast their votes, may result in protest votes for non-Democratic Presidential candidates.</p>
<p>As of May 9, some 157,080 Floridians had signed the petition, and 1,037 FDR volunteers were actively organizing throughout the state.</p>
<p>Hannagan reported that a recent FDR survey of Florida voters shows that the failure to resolve the issue is causing increased polarization; and that 15-20% of those who took part in the survey are planning to leave the Party. Florida is considered a key swing state in the November Presidential election.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"In November we will all see who is the loser, and who will be the last to laugh."

If McCain wins, the last laugh will be be had by the Bushes and Roves of the world, who once again will have swindled the rubes of America to vote against their own self interest.  Wow, what bragging rights. You sure showed us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In November we will all see who is the loser, and who will be the last to laugh.&#8221;</p>
<p>If McCain wins, the last laugh will be be had by the Bushes and Roves of the world, who once again will have swindled the rubes of America to vote against their own self interest.  Wow, what bragging rights. You sure showed us.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda from California</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/05/17/clinton-in-the-past-tense-almost-with-obama/#comment-361163</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda from California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary began with strikes against her.  Namely, she supported the war and giving unlimited executive power to Bush/Cheney. She did not speak out against the abuses of power. Plus, she was a devisive figure prior to her presedential bid, alienating potential cross-overs of moderate Republicans.  She began her campaign with a sense of entitlement--and I think that is what is keeping her going. But people are weary of the war and suspicious of government spin and outright lies.  Polls indicate people believe she is untrustworthy. The election hasn't been taken from her, she began significant strikes against her and she has not been able to overcome them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary began with strikes against her.  Namely, she supported the war and giving unlimited executive power to Bush/Cheney. She did not speak out against the abuses of power. Plus, she was a devisive figure prior to her presedential bid, alienating potential cross-overs of moderate Republicans.  She began her campaign with a sense of entitlement&#8211;and I think that is what is keeping her going. But people are weary of the war and suspicious of government spin and outright lies.  Polls indicate people believe she is untrustworthy. The election hasn&#8217;t been taken from her, she began significant strikes against her and she has not been able to overcome them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack from Kansas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack from Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Obama a great leader? Promises change? Have you seen it in writing what changes he proposes? Appears to me he is somewhat of a hothead. Gets defensive over comments that doesn't mention his name even tho he said it. What does he propose to do, offer the leader of Iran a bowl of warm milk toast and talk it over? Gets p.o.ed over political ads featuring his wife. If she was a stay at home mom then ok, don't attack her but if she is out there speaking for her husband, then she is fair game. I really hope Ms Clinton makes a fight over it at the convention, just like the old days. But then I'm just a red neck farmer so what I think doesn't matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Obama a great leader? Promises change? Have you seen it in writing what changes he proposes? Appears to me he is somewhat of a hothead. Gets defensive over comments that doesn&#8217;t mention his name even tho he said it. What does he propose to do, offer the leader of Iran a bowl of warm milk toast and talk it over? Gets p.o.ed over political ads featuring his wife. If she was a stay at home mom then ok, don&#8217;t attack her but if she is out there speaking for her husband, then she is fair game. I really hope Ms Clinton makes a fight over it at the convention, just like the old days. But then I&#8217;m just a red neck farmer so what I think doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: gk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/05/17/clinton-in-the-past-tense-almost-with-obama/#comment-361138</link>
		<dc:creator>gk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nomination is over.  Most candidates have the good sense, morals and ethics to drop out before being  mathematically eliminated.  That would explain the decision of both fields of Republican and Democratic candidates dropping out prior to the conventions for the good of the party.  Here, Hillary will be mathmatically out soon, yet she is still in despite the math.  She vows to stay in, even when mathematically out.  She is not fighting for her supporters, she is only out for one thing --herself.  She now says to count Michigan and Florida and redo the math.  People have no memory cells.  Hillary SIGNED A PLEDGE with ALL of the candidates that stated, Florida and Michigan elections WILL NOT COUNT.  She campainged in Iowa and New Hampshire touting that she signed that pledge to gain votes at THAT TIME.  She said Florida and Michigan votes should not count because those states were trying to STEAL from Iowa and New Hampshire their place in being the first primaries.  Now she is saying the opposite.  Anyone who supports Hillary is simply a victim of her and Bill's manipulations.  Don't believe me, read "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward.  In that book, Hillar is quoted as saying, "it does not matter what is true, it matters what we can make people believe is true."  So you Hillary supporters, "keep believing" but the party is over despite her spin and lies about Florida and Michigan which she signed a pledge not to count.

gk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nomination is over.  Most candidates have the good sense, morals and ethics to drop out before being  mathematically eliminated.  That would explain the decision of both fields of Republican and Democratic candidates dropping out prior to the conventions for the good of the party.  Here, Hillary will be mathmatically out soon, yet she is still in despite the math.  She vows to stay in, even when mathematically out.  She is not fighting for her supporters, she is only out for one thing &#8211;herself.  She now says to count Michigan and Florida and redo the math.  People have no memory cells.  Hillary SIGNED A PLEDGE with ALL of the candidates that stated, Florida and Michigan elections WILL NOT COUNT.  She campainged in Iowa and New Hampshire touting that she signed that pledge to gain votes at THAT TIME.  She said Florida and Michigan votes should not count because those states were trying to STEAL from Iowa and New Hampshire their place in being the first primaries.  Now she is saying the opposite.  Anyone who supports Hillary is simply a victim of her and Bill&#8217;s manipulations.  Don&#8217;t believe me, read &#8220;The Agenda&#8221; by Bob Woodward.  In that book, Hillar is quoted as saying, &#8220;it does not matter what is true, it matters what we can make people believe is true.&#8221;  So you Hillary supporters, &#8220;keep believing&#8221; but the party is over despite her spin and lies about Florida and Michigan which she signed a pledge not to count.</p>
<p>gk</p>
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		<title>By: kaye c.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaye c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has not won yet...The race is far from over...Considering his comments on wearing his flag pin and threatening everyone not to say anything about his perfect wife plus his comments regarding Iran may slow the voting down in Oregon tomorrow...His message of change has resonated very well with the masses however he has no actual plans to implemet the rhetoric promises he makes...Nothing he can say will take away Wright, Ayers, Rezko and his other associates that are questionable.  He wants no one to speak negatively about his wife Michelle even tho she is extremely snobby, eletist and her patriorism has and is questioned...It takes much more than book learning and the study and practice of black theology to be President of this great United States...The race is coming to an end and he has not even been vetted yet...Seems like that would be cause for pause before casting your vote...HRC is the only candidate that can beat McCain in November and bring our Soldiers HOME!!!..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has not won yet&#8230;The race is far from over&#8230;Considering his comments on wearing his flag pin and threatening everyone not to say anything about his perfect wife plus his comments regarding Iran may slow the voting down in Oregon tomorrow&#8230;His message of change has resonated very well with the masses however he has no actual plans to implemet the rhetoric promises he makes&#8230;Nothing he can say will take away Wright, Ayers, Rezko and his other associates that are questionable.  He wants no one to speak negatively about his wife Michelle even tho she is extremely snobby, eletist and her patriorism has and is questioned&#8230;It takes much more than book learning and the study and practice of black theology to be President of this great United States&#8230;The race is coming to an end and he has not even been vetted yet&#8230;Seems like that would be cause for pause before casting your vote&#8230;HRC is the only candidate that can beat McCain in November and bring our Soldiers HOME!!!..</p>
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		<title>By: WooZee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/05/17/clinton-in-the-past-tense-almost-with-obama/#comment-361125</link>
		<dc:creator>WooZee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of the numbers, I don't know how else he could react as a candidate. He's in the lead with superdelegates and only a miracle would put her there.  My question is, aside from this sense she has that "it's her time", why does a candidate stay in a race past their obvious viability and into threatening the party's chances to win in November territory?  The answer that first comes to me reflects my own pre-judgment of Mrs. Clinton - she's counting on our pre-judgments and their related fears to stop us from voting for the future of our nation.  I think a vote for Obama is a vote for being sick of the same old conversation, same old stalled attitudes.  I think we Americans want to evolve into the next phase of what this experiment of a nation can be...I want that for my kids more than I want to see another person who shares my anatomy sitting in that chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of the numbers, I don&#8217;t know how else he could react as a candidate. He&#8217;s in the lead with superdelegates and only a miracle would put her there.  My question is, aside from this sense she has that &#8220;it&#8217;s her time&#8221;, why does a candidate stay in a race past their obvious viability and into threatening the party&#8217;s chances to win in November territory?  The answer that first comes to me reflects my own pre-judgment of Mrs. Clinton - she&#8217;s counting on our pre-judgments and their related fears to stop us from voting for the future of our nation.  I think a vote for Obama is a vote for being sick of the same old conversation, same old stalled attitudes.  I think we Americans want to evolve into the next phase of what this experiment of a nation can be&#8230;I want that for my kids more than I want to see another person who shares my anatomy sitting in that chair.</p>
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		<title>By: democracy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/05/17/clinton-in-the-past-tense-almost-with-obama/#comment-361120</link>
		<dc:creator>democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a great leader and a unifying figure of change and hope. Please, let’s get together now as a Democratic Party. Let’s stop bickering, and look forward to November.

Dems United to beat John McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a great leader and a unifying figure of change and hope. Please, let’s get together now as a Democratic Party. Let’s stop bickering, and look forward to November.</p>
<p>Dems United to beat John McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: erag5294</title>
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		<dc:creator>erag5294</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He's a Winner Alright!
#1. Speaks of Hillary in the past tense..No the race isn´t over. Hillary is still in the race and that there are more votes to be counted.ie: Combined population of Oregon, Montana and South Dakota = 5,173,438
Combined population of Kentucky and Puerto Rico = 8,086,459 ……plus Florida &#38; Michigan   RISE~Hillary~RISE 
 
#2.Sanctimonious....OBAMA AND HIS KENTUCKY CROSS…... .Obama is making a direct appeal to Kentuckian evangelicals with fliers that mention his conversion to Christianity,highlights the words FAITH-HOPE-CHANGE and a big old in-your-face cross.(nothing subliminal like Huckabee's bookcase/cross)The verse is FAITH-HOPE-LOVE. I guess he thinks he is "The Chosen One" and can rewrite the Bible.

#3.Fear Mongering...Obama tells seniors McCain threatens the Social Security that they depend on and would push to raise the retirement age for collecting Social Security benefits or trim annual cost-of-living increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s a Winner Alright!<br />
#1. Speaks of Hillary in the past tense..No the race isn´t over. Hillary is still in the race and that there are more votes to be counted.ie: Combined population of Oregon, Montana and South Dakota = 5,173,438<br />
Combined population of Kentucky and Puerto Rico = 8,086,459 ……plus Florida &amp; Michigan   RISE~Hillary~RISE </p>
<p>#2.Sanctimonious&#8230;.OBAMA AND HIS KENTUCKY CROSS…&#8230; .Obama is making a direct appeal to Kentuckian evangelicals with fliers that mention his conversion to Christianity,highlights the words FAITH-HOPE-CHANGE and a big old in-your-face cross.(nothing subliminal like Huckabee&#8217;s bookcase/cross)The verse is FAITH-HOPE-LOVE. I guess he thinks he is &#8220;The Chosen One&#8221; and can rewrite the Bible.</p>
<p>#3.Fear Mongering&#8230;Obama tells seniors McCain threatens the Social Security that they depend on and would push to raise the retirement age for collecting Social Security benefits or trim annual cost-of-living increases.</p>
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