Several people have responded to my comments. The problem with their comments is that they assume that if fetuses were persons this would mean the state could legitimately force women to be physically attached to them. But the state has no legitimate power to force women to be physically attached to any person. Indeed, a state with the power to physically attach one person to another person would be the very essence of tyranny.

Of course the baby has human rights starting at the point of conception. The point is, since the baby doesn’t have the ability to voice their opinion at that time(which if they did I’m pretty sure they would say to keep them alive) the mother is in charge of that. But instead, she just gives the doctors the go ahead to kill it. Who ever gave us women the right to murder? If some random person kills an innocent life, they’re gonna go to jail for their actions. What’s the difference with abortion? I don’t get how people are for abortion because it’s the murder of an innocent life. You could be killing the next president. The justice system clearly says that no one has the right to murder when they put away serial killers but when it comes to abortion, it’s completely okay to take away a life. No one wants to take responsibility for their own actions. They want to be able to bring pleasure to themselves but when it comes to the woman getting pregnant, they want nothing to do with it. People don’t want to take accountability for anything these days.

Oh yeah, PS…I also believe our country should step up on capital punishment. (It’s in the BIBLE, look it up!)

I have a daughter with special needs - Partial Trisomy 13. As a result, I have met many families with surviving children who have Trisomy 13 (including those with the Full chromosome “triplicated”). Almost all of them were told they needed to seek an abortion. Many who insisted on carrying to term were advised (even pressured, sometimes relentlessly) to seek no care beyond comfort measures for their child after birth, even when all conditions present were considered to be highly treatable. My daughter is now a young adult who can walk, talk, read, write, and calculate. Her first few years were rough, but she has been such a blessing in the life of our family. I could never vote for someone who has so little respect for human life that he would allow a baby who has already endured the suffering of being prematurely enduced to lie comfortless until death. Obama’s socialist views regarding the medical field will lead to even more of this type of behavior. I have a Canadian friend whose live-born T-13 infant (who had few signs of T-13, none of them visible) was murdered at the Toronto Hospital for Sick Children by being given a huge overdose of meds and was then left to die, because one of the doctors signed a DNR order for my friend’s baby. (My friend has proof!) My friend had left the hospital briefly to check on her other children at home and get more clothes, as she had not been home in days. The baby had actually been at home and had developed a respiratory problem which required rehospitalization.

Here’s my thought on things… I do not agree with abortion past the first trimester. If the fetus can survive outside the womb then the government can call it murder. However if it can’t survive then the government should have no say in the matter. Its a personal decision… No one else’s! I have no problem with Christians letting pregnant women know about their options, but if a woman decides to have an abortion then leave her alone! She obviously has thought about it.

Oh my god, so Obama decided he didn’t want to get into an argument with a mega-pastor who clearly has different views then him.

The president is the highest pay grade? Bush thinks that, which is why he doesn’t listen to advice. Which is why nothing has been done about the environment, the economy, etc.

I think it’s pretty clear Obama is pro-choice, so you’re slamming him for not getting into a televised argument with a religious fanatic.

So if someone comes and knocks on your door to share their views with you, do you welcome them into your home and look forward to the discussion?

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Oh please, that’s not what he meant and you know it. I’m voting for McCain, but for other reasons. A woman has a right to their own body, it is their decision and no one else’s. He’s at least respecting that much. A couple has sex, the woman gets pregnant, the man has another girlfriend on the side and leaves his unborn child with it’s mother. Who got out of this situation easily? A woman gets raped and never sees that man again but gets pregnant, who’s left with all the responsibility’s when she was completely against it? A woman should be the one to decide what goes on her life and how her life should be directed, not a man. Obama said the right thing. Then people talk about other people in poverty, on medical/medicaid, welfare, food stamps. etc. AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON’T take money out of your paychecks to feed others do you, to wash others, to put shelter over their heads. Unless you completely know and understand where you are coming from and where the other people are coming from you can’t DOGG on Obama for saying something he knows isn’t a question for him to decide. SHEESH!! (And to what McCain said, conception is the beginning of life, well that may be true to some, but to those who can afford it, it makes it easier to be against abortion.) Think about the life the child is going to have if the mother can’t afford it, foster care system, abused by strangers, being a reject in today’s society because of where they come from, because you must’ve heard that America is a materialistic country and if you don’t got it, you better move for those who do. This is the stupidest fight abortion or not. It’s not a freaking arguement and it’s up to nobody to decide. the decision is up to the woman and/or it depends on the situation. Leave Obama Alone!

Mr. Obama shows the weakness in his person and admits his vivid understanding of life begining at conception which is undeniable and completely obvious to everyone by hiding behind the pay grade comment. This is a stark and complete revelation to us that his entire judgement and willingness to act morally corrupt in the face of all truth is confirmed. God save all the innocent people he may be directly responcible for condeming to death.

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I don’t understand this quote. Of course we care about kids with birth defects. We, unlike Obama and the Democrats, do not think we should kill a baby just because he or she is not perfect.

So why should that justify killing other children, who are at their most vulnerable point in life, a growing human embryo?

I just don’t understand the logic there: “We care about special needs kids so we should kill other kids”

Now on to ingramris. You are correct, McCain would rather lose an election than lose a war, because McCain thinks about Country First. Did you see his convention speech? If not, review the transcript or watch the video here: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News  /Speeches/ef046a10-706a-4dd5-bd01-b93b3 6b054bc.htm

McCain used to be selfish and self-centered like Obama and Biden. But McCain’s time in the North Vietnamese prison camp changed him. He now works for a cause greater than his self interest. He loves America, and he and Sarah Palin have a proven record of fighting corruption and waste in government, something we a Christians can support.

Then, inexplicably, you go on to say “Obama would rather lose a campaign by telling the truth than win on a campaign of lies”. What are you talking about here? Obama’s whole campaign is a lie. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to the non-partisan National Journal’s 27th annual vote ratings. Obama shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.

Now he is trying to lie to the American people that he will cut their taxes, he cares about America and will protect us, and somehow he is a “Christian” even though he fought hard to make sure Live Born Infants did not get any medical care that would save their lives.

How in the world is that “truth”?