LYNCHBURG, Virginia - Democrat Barack Obama scolded Russia again on Wednesday for invading another country’s sovereign territory while adding a new twist: the United States, he said, should set a better example on that front, too.
The Illinois senator’s opposition to the Iraq war, which his comment clearly referenced, is well known. But this was the first time the Democratic presidential candidate has made a comparison between the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Russia’s recent military activity in Georgia.
“We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies,” Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. “They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”
Foreign policy has become a dividing line in the race for the White House.
Obama favors a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq over 16 months, while John McCain, his Republican rival for president, opposes a timeline and says U.S. forces must stay to finish and win the war.
McCain, an Arizona senator, sought to highlight his foreign policy credentials during the Russia-Georgia crisis last week, giving a series of harsh statements directed at Moscow soon after the conflict began.
Obama, who was on vacation in Hawaii, followed suit with statements that became sharper over time.

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Looks like the Reagan democrats will be voting Republican again.
- Posted by BobPrior to Iraq, I remember watching resolution after resolution. Inspectors in…inspectors out. Deadlines come….deadlines gone. Attempts at diplomacy went on for far too long (in my opinion). The U.S. also had a “coalition of the willing”. What nations do Russia’s coalition consist of?
- Posted by mmichaelsEvery time I read something which Obama has said I get a little tingle in my bones as well. The more this guy talks the more John McCain’s poll numbers will increase, lol. Haven’t the Democrats learned that the majority of Americans actually like their country? Don’t they know that comparing our actions to those of thuggish nations won’t get them any extra votes in November? Obama will lose at least 5% from this comment.
- Posted by MattThis will play well in the patriotic Midwest…for McCain.
- Posted by TedYou’re guys are kidding right? Did we “invade” South Korea in the 50’s? Did we “invade” South Vietnam? Where would those countries be if we hadn’t acted? “Gone” is the right answer, and both North Korea and North Vietnam would be even bigger problems today. Both of the countries we helped were positively impacted because of our actions, just like Iraq will be better in the future because of our actions. For a Presidential candidate to be so anti-American is bad enough. For so many Americans to support his point of view is appaling.
- Posted by madman_5117Obama proving once again that President is above his pay grade. You cannot equivocate the Russians invading a sovereign country which has done not violated any international or UN Resolutions with American actions.
The US went into Afghanistan because they were housing and training Al Qaeda terrorists after the 9-11 attacks. Though controversial, the US went into Iraq after it had violated over 10 UN Resolutions and failed to allow WMD inspectors to do their job.
Obama’s amateur hour foreign policy is not going to cut it in the dangerous world in which we live.
- Posted by RB MillerHow’s this for a coincidence?
- Posted by AndrewOn July 10-13, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili and Karl Rove were at the YES conference in Yalta. (that’s where Rove was when he was supposed to be testifying to the Senate Judiciary) Three weeks later, Georgia invaded Ossetia.
McCain’s foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, is a lobbyist. His firm, Orion Strategies, has received $800,000 from the government of Georgia. McCain said himself, “we are all Georgians now”. No just the man who is in charge of his foreign policy is.
What is going on here? Did Rove tell Saakashvili to start this conflict under the pretense that Georgia would have US military support? Is this a ploy to shift the presidential debate back to the cold war(instead of Iraq and the economy)? Or am I just delusional here?
Despite Russian claims, no parallels exist between U.S. Iraq involvement and Russian Georgian aggression. With that and other pretexts Putin unilaterally attacked into Georgia, after NATO membership rejection portended a flaccid response. In contrast the United States, heading a U. N. coalition exceeding that Churchill and Roosevelt assembled to confront Hitler’s Germany, toppled Hussein’s regime, forcing the U.N. to confront the reason for its’ existence.
The Iraq ceasefire ended, because Hussein materially breached international obligations defined within U.N. Resolution 687, and reaffirmed by Resolution 1441. Resolution 687 incorporated 678 and 19 previous resolutions without amendments, offering Hussein conditional ceasefire in 1991. Instead he ignored responsibilities to submit comprehensive declarations of all WMD stockpiles and programs, and missiles with greater than 150 kilometre range. He thwarted the program envisioned by menacing, eluding, and deceiving inspectors. The U.N. resorted to surveillance, analysis, and investigation to destroy material and disrupt programs, until Hussein expelled inspectors in 1998. He continued forbidden involvement in international terrorism.
Russian statements are especially egregious fabrications, because they helped draft and acquiesced to every resolution. Concerning Hussein’s responsibilities, diplomats and politicians laboriously parsed each phrase for clear focus on verbs instead of nouns, behaviors not WMD stockpiles. The key words were guarantee, reaffirm, accept, submit, declare, yield, forgo, agree, inform, comply, cooperate, lie, omit, and thwart. Concerning consequences, the U.N.’s ultimatums in Resolutions 678 and 1441 authorized disarming Hussein’s regime through military operations “to restore international peace and security in the area”, and did not instruct coalition forces to merely expel Hussein from Kuwait. U.N. precedent from the Korean War ensured the above phrase intended invasion of Iraq. The term “in the area” used phraseology, confirmed by Congress, authorizing military action above the 38th parallel to disarm North Korea. Congress ratified U.N. Iraq positions with resolutions in 1991, 1998, and 2002.
As Russian forces crossed South Ossetia into Georgia, the moment arrived for inescapable acknowledgement that Putin had revoked the Cold War armistice. Justifications contain too many parallels to Hitler’s concern for Sudeten Germans in Czechoslovakia to ascribe less than brutal motives. Extravagant armored attacks through the Greater Caucasus Mountains demonstrate traditional Russian ruling elite neurotic insecurity; neurosis requiring rival power destruction without political compromise. Genetic, multi-millennial paranoia infects the current cabal to regard NATO, former Warsaw Pack countries, and former Soviet republics as encircling enemies. Such perceptions, not shared by the Russian people, repudiate years of Western support for emerging Russian representative government, political security, and economic stability.
There can be no permanent peaceful coexistence with a totalitarian Russia, but traditional warfare is not inevitable. Illogics lead this cabal onto unacceptable paths, but these elites remain highly susceptible to logics of force accompanied by determination to use it. Forceful initiatives require immediately curtailing efforts to integrate the former Soviet Union into the economic, cultural, and political life of the Free World. Next initiatives require increasingly serious discussions of cooperation and membership between NATO, and former Warsaw Pack countries and former Soviet republics. Finally, the United States must update Cold War plans through cooperative military exercises in Europe and the Mediterranean. This country must wage war, where diplomacy uses overt and clandestine activities to exploit, contradictions, stresses, and tensions between Putin’s ruling elite, and the Russian people and countries with which he needs alliances.
Such progressive, consecutive initiatives establish constraining negotiating positions Putin must consider. Such actions must proceed inexorably, subject to adjustment only following verifiable pacific initiatives for representative government and non-belligerent relationships with neighbors. Effective containment will reveal fragility of a totalitarian rule needing solidification within a disaffected, cynical population. The West must not squander this opportunity to make cruel subjection of Georgia become Putin’s undoing.
- Posted by Nolan NelsonIs it really possible that Barack Obama is as naive as he appears? Does he really believe that Vladimir Putin would be somehow transformed into a kind, and gentle man if we hadn’t gone to war in Iraq? Is Obama’s hubris so significant that he believes that our moral example will somehow calm murderous tyrants and dictators around the world? I think he does … and that is just a little bit scary.
- Posted by SoflauthorThe idea that Russia bases its behavior on the US’s example is beyond laughable. Russia has a thousand-year history of naked territorial aggression. Perhaps one of you Obama supporters can explain to me how the capture of the Ukraine or the First Partition of Poland were simply Russia acting on the example of the then-nonexistent US as well?
More importantly, it’s a demonstration of exactly the kind of small-minded, arrogant, everything-is-always-all-about-us mentality that allegedly makes the rest of the world hate Americans. I know this may seem as a shock to some of you, but sometimes stuff happens in the world that has nothing to do with us, and there are people in the world that are perfectly capable of making their own decisions, exerting their own wills, and committing their own acts of evil without any American influence whatsoever.
- Posted by Mikhail VoloshinHmm. How many UN resolutions was Georgia in violation of when Russia “charged in”? How many visits did Russia make to the UN pleading their case?
Obama is truly a blessing…to conservatives.
- Posted by ElGoodoSheer lunacy. On the bright side, though, idiotic statements like this will guarantee Obama’s defeat.
- Posted by BuglerDid Obama point out the ‘Wag the Dog’ connection between Georgia’s war and McCain’s lobbyist/consultant?
- Posted by jk macMcCain has helped make the US a paper tiger with the Iraq war, but is not above putting the US back into a cold war with Russia in order to win the White House.
A note on McCain’s military judgement: McCain’s surge is currently being undone by the Iraqi government’s own timetable to undo the ‘Awakening’ that enabled the surge. See: Key U.S. Iraq strategy in danger of collapse By Leila Fadel/McClatchy International News.
Well obviously we shouldn’t help our allies. U.S. will have better and stronger alliances if we simply bail on Georgian and let them be invaded and taken over.
In fact, we should let Russia invade and conquer Poland as well. You know, just for fun.
Then I’m sure all our allies will know where they stand. They’ll understand that an alliance with the U.S. will get them invaded and destroyed, while allying with Russia against the U.S. will actually provide them security and safety.
Finally we can have the U.S. destroyed and our economy crippled. What the communists and socialists have strived for so long to do, finally, through foreign powers we can bring down the U.S. and promote Communism and Dictatorships throughout the world.
Nobody is happy unless they’re the control of jack-booted thugs, having had all rights revoked.
Woohoo, lets do that… elect Obama.
- Posted by GekkobearThats some nice moral equivalence that Obama is spewing.
And Tommy,
- Posted by Colbyyou might be praying for an Obama led socialist regime but I’m not and it seems like a lot of Americans are starting to realize they don’t want one either.
and, if obama feels that strongly about what russia has done, why isn’t he throwing a complete sissy fit about them not taking their issue to the UN security council, of which russia is a permanent member?
And, last time I checked, there were NO sanctions against Georgia…they had NEVER attacked their neighbors…they had NEVER used chemical or biological weapons against their neighbors OR their own people…
Alright you obama backers…where is his justification in keeping silent on those issues??? He has NONE! Because you CANNOT DEFEND A NEGATIVE!!! He would much rather try and make political hay out of something he knows nothing about….
As I said…he’s an idiot. And empty suit. And those that continue to back him aren’t any smarter….
- Posted by Chris WObama looks to be the voice of restraint, reason and calm whilst most others seem intent only on increasing tension with other nations. With realisitic comments like this the world can only become a better and safer place were he to be elected.
Obama ‘08!
- Posted by Simon CEvery time I read something which Obama has said, I just get a feeling of excitement in my bones. Could this be the man that changes things up for my nation finally? Lord, I pray my fellow Americans feel the same way. I could not fathom McCain having a majority of support….
Obama ‘08!
- Posted by TommyUS and Russia should stop conflicts,but now US support new war in Georgia,amd make promices to join NATO,Saakashvili can invave to Tskhinvali again
- Posted by eran.ruThis is a good judgment.At least we have one sensible politician in our country.
- Posted by raphalito