LEBANON, Va - Democrat Barack Obama enjoys poking fun at his Republican opponents and their claims to being “agents of change.”
But Obama’s comments at a town-hall meeting in southwestern Virginia may have been misinte
rpreted by the audience.
“You can put lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered and yelled and eventually got to their feet.
“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”
“We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”
The audience, which had a particularly strong reaction whenever Obama mentioned Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, appeared to enjoy the “lipstick” comment the most.
When Palin gave her acceptance speech at the Republican convention in St. Paul she joked about being a hockey mom, saying the only difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom was lipstick.
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Photo credit: Reuters/Rebecca Cook. Obama greets audience during campaign stop in Flint, Michigan, Sept. 8, 2008.

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if you idiots think he was calling palin a pig because he used the word lipstick, you need to look at your surrounds and see if you live in a sty. OH,heavens he said pig and lipstick in the same sentence! there then needs to be some legisltion for “special needs” voters.
- Posted by anonThat is why Bill Clinton called him a Chicago thug.
Is it co-incidence that at the official webpage of the Democrats they had a discussion about a week ago of Sarah being a pig with lipstick on? It is clear what Obama was insinuating.
I am sure by now they have removed any trace of that discussion from their website.
Obama you have taken it to the gutter, what a shame.
- Posted by JaneObama denies that he was referring to Sarah.
Guess what over at the official website of the Democrats they had the discussion about Sarah being a pig with lipstick on a week or what ago. Chances are they have removed it now.
Is it co-incidence? Obama just confirmed why Bill Clinton refers to him as a Chicago thug.
- Posted by JaneWHY WHY does everyone forget that during the primary race John MaCain said of Hillary Clintons health policy that SHE WAS JUST PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG ..NOW EXCUSE ME WHERE WAS ALL THE OUTRAGE THAN FROM THE REPUBLICANS//THE NEWS MEDIA/SUPPOSEDLY WOMANS GROUPDS..hello people getover it..Obama mentioned john macain by name in the sentence before the lipstick comment not ms palin NEVER mentioned her..SO GET OVER IT PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTRY..
- Posted by Pat ThomasThe U.S. now includes all 14 identifying points of fascism as defined by Dr. Lawrence Britt in 2003. We need to recognize what the Republican party is doing. Karl Rove is one of McCain’s strategists, and all of them are big-time corporate lobbyists. They adhere to the notion,”It’s easierto get folks to swallow a big lie than a little one,” and their biggest lie to-date is Sarah Palin. It is the height of sexism to use her as Geritol for this old man and his campaign and yet forbid her to speak with reporters. Everything the Republicans say in their campaign about McCain and Palin is a lie. McCain used the “lipstick on a pig” metaphor twice during this campaign about Hilary Clinton’s healthcare plan. It’s the same old thing, all the time. Lie about everything, avoid any discussion of real issues, confuse people who don’t go far enough to learn the truth for themselves–and when you get to power, sell out the people in favor of corporations. Watch out, America–if Republicans get one more fundamentalist on the Supreme Court, the civil rights Bush II didn’t take away will be stripped away over time, and there will be no going back. When McCain says he wants “strict constructionists” on the Court, he means he wants to go back to what the people who wrote the Constitution in 1788 meant by, “All men are created equal,” that is–all white men who own land–and nobody else. DON’T BE FOOLED BY SPIN.
- Posted by Dee TurnerI have been a hocky mom, soccer mom, basketball mom, and just plain old mom and frankly, I hate being compared to a pitbull with lipstick - period!!!!
- Posted by JillOf course it is a common saying. That doesn’t negate the fact that one needs to be very careful about making potentially inflammatory statements. There are plenty of other old adages that would have worked in this case.
As others have pointed out “calling a spade, a spade” is also a common expression, and could be used in many instances. However, can you imagine what would happen if the McCain/Palin camp used it in a speech?
I mean, seriously. He had to know the lipstick on a pig comment would be a dumb choice, especially after the “lipstick on a pitbull” Hockey Mom thing.
It’s not my election, and not my business who wins, but I thought he was smarter than that.
- Posted by CanuckistanianWhat a bunch of crap the Republicans love to act outraged, and that’s all it is an act. They can’t talk about the issues, our economy, in the toilet, two WARS, bigget boondoggles ever that cost trillions and many many lives, one WAR that was fought half baked to look like we were after the Terriorist the other for oil by two oil men who wear their little flag pins and claim to be Patriotic, healtcare hahahaha, banks closing, people’s homes being foreclosed upon, can’t afford gas, groceries you name it. Jobs, all gone overseas, and on and on. Those good ol fiscally responsible Republicans, funny every time they get into office the Dems have to go in after them and clean up the mess. They don’t have a good idea between them. Just slander, lies, mud racking and the Religious Right Wackos. I remember good old Botex Cindy saying “my husband will not use any underhanded or Rovarian tactis in this election”, hahaha, he sold his sole for a shot at the big chair, then they forced Ms. Moose Woman down his throat because the right wingers don’t want to give up their hold on power, they nearly have the Supreme Court loaded up where they want it so they can’t stop now.
- Posted by Sue FilutzeFor the Republicans, it’s not about Country first, or what’s best for Americans, it’s about WINNING, at any and all cost. I’m doing and so are many others, who are sick to death of this pre pubecent party’s antics that have driven us to the edge of obvilion, everything to make dam certain they don’t steal this election.
When McCain uses “putting lipstick on pig” regarding Hillary Clinton, it’s apparently OK but when Obama uses the common saying, the republican spin and sound bite machine cries foul. What a double standard?
I think since McCain’s “change” does not have any real substance the only way they can respond is acting offended and they create an TV ad, taking 3 bits of out of context. If you listen to full obama speech, its very clear from the context what he is talking about.
Double standards are plenty in Karl Rowe/Rush Limbaough dirty politics. If a Democratic Candidate’s child is expecting a baby conceived out of wed-lock, the GOP radio cohorts would be attaching that person day and night as not being a presidental family. Yet, they do not have a problem with their own candidates.
- Posted by Disgusted by double standards of GOPAnybody that thinks Obama’s comment was an insult to Sarah Palin either didn’t listen to what he actually said in his speech or is just brain dead.
- Posted by GregTalk about double standards, when republicans spout off lies and take pot shots all of these, so called Americans just remain quiet, but when a democrat speaks up all of the sudden an out poor? The GOP is full of a bunch of religious zealots, overeducated s**t heads, and oh yes morons. Right now Obama is ahead in the Electoral college
- Posted by Wayneand probably will stay there.
So vent all you want republican scum.
HOORAY FOR OBAMA, OBAMA HAS MY VOTE, EVERYONE I TALK TO WANTS TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.
- Posted by Registered VoterFirst, John McCain speaks of “lipstick on a pig.” He was apparently addressing Hillary Clinton’s universal health care initiative of some 15 years ago, as compared to Barack Obama’s universal health care plan of today. What about John’s health care plan? The wide divide of difference between the republican & democrat plans will be debated very soon between the two presidential candidates.
Barack Obama then speaks of “lipstick on a pig.” He was talking about the republican ticket that so recently began parading as a change agent (rather than an experience agent)…when in fact said ticket is nothing of the sort. That is not debatable, i.e., it is obvious that the republican ticket is no change agent once the lipstick is wiped off.
Nancy Pfotenhauer speaks out for Sarah Palin, Mr. & Mrs. Reader! Why? Because Nancy wears lipstick…or because she likes to flap her lips?
Nancy says that Sarah is not a lipsticked pig.
While Sarah may not be a lipsticked pig, she is a lipsticked hockey mom by her own admission. Likewise by her own admission, Sarah has stated over and over and over and over again that when she is de-lipsticked that she can readily be compared to a dog, i.e., a pit bull.
Sarah started all of this lipstick stuff when she ad-libbed at the republican convention, i.e., she didn’t stick to her script. That must be why John is almost always looking over her shoulder now to ensure that she doesn’t again deviate from the comments scripted by his behind the scenes playwrites. I wonder if John will accompany Sarah to her debate with Joe Biden?
OK Jack
P.S. All of this makes one wonder if “lipstick on a pig” could be applied to the English monarchy whose members invented their own church and biblical history to “barely disguise” their mortal sins. Political scripts are intended to be closely and literally adhered to. This same rule could be said to apply to the King James I’s (of England) version of biblical events and history that Sarah apparently takes so literally…this, even though its translation from Greek, Latin & Hebrew was managed by a monarch whose entire hereditary line (beginning with King Henry VIII and his 6 convenient wives and various mistresses) consisted of nothing more than a throng of iniquitous thugs and murderers (i.e., killers of their own wives and siblings when it suited them). In other words, biblical events and history were rewritten by James I in many subtle ways to justify Henry’s convenient departure from the Roman Catholic faith…so that he could commit terrible sins under the blessed umbrella of the Anglican Protestant Church of England.
- Posted by OK JackMcCain has bragged to his children that he dated a stripper. Why would women be more upset with the preception that Palin is called a pig than McCain demeaning them by supporting strippers.
- Posted by Mattie BookerI don’t know how McCain who I am sure heard the same thing I heard is saying that Obama called Sarah a pig. Maybe since she is getting more attention than McCain he thinks of her as a pig.
- Posted by Mattie BookerAJNA - “moron”…thats not very nice talk. I think you mean Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi…
- Posted by DoreneMy wife and I were very disappointed with the democratic party selecting of Obama. We had planned to vote for McCain this fall until he selected his vp choice. Now it appears he is pandering to disgruntled Hillary supporters,and has not selected a vp who is credible to become presidentshould something happen to McCain. Now we have to plan on voting for Obama.
- Posted by oldIowa democratJill - “Personally, as a woman, wife, mother, grandmother, I hated Sarah Palin saying we are pitbulls with lipstick”
Your obviously not a hockey mom…that’s O.K. too.
As a woman, wife, mother and yes grandmother of five, I was not offended by the pitbull statement.
- Posted by DoreneIs the GOP that desperate that they would take a colloquial phrase, a phrase mind you, that was used by MCCAIN in the primaries to speak on Hillary’s health care program and try to keep it as a talking point. Disgusting and juvenile is the game these Rovian’s play. I watched that RN Bashing C in which I heard several references to Obama’s time as a ‘community organizer’ and raked him over the coals. How belittling was that entertaining exchange. Barack won’t say it, but this hypocracy exhibited by these so called conservatives and neo-cons in the midst of the worst 8 years of my life in insulting to the intelligence of Americans and the world.
- Posted by AJNAIf Palin/McCain (the real order of the ticket) was so offended, why didn’t they, themselves, make a public demand for an apology? They went right on with that same tire stump speech. Business as usual. I saw somebody request that Obama ‘grow up.’ You talk to that senior citizen you endorse and tell him to grow (heshould be more grown than everybody) 1. keep a campaign staff long enough for your message to resonate with them so they can drive your message home to the public 2. Have a consistent message, you know like ‘Experience’ or ‘Maverick,’ that is actually believable coming from you. You’re not change McCain and you know it. You don’t even know how to talk about change in a way that is convincing to your base, let alone the rest of the country 3. Stop straddling the fence; you’re a Republican so be one and own the failure of your party to the full depths of it’s cavern. You weren’t strong enough to win against Bush, with your, at the time, 18 years of experience and war hero status. you don’t get to reinvent yourself as change and still be endorsed by the GOP. You should have run ‘Independent’ or at the very least, chosen Lieberman (who you really wanted as VP) to prove this Maverick status. Confess that you got punked by the controllers of your party so we can end this farce. 4. It is time to strengthen the buying power of the upper middle to lower classes. That is the only way the economy will stablize. People need to be able to keep their homes. They deserve to make enough money to feed, care for, and entertain their families. This is not a trickle down time, but a foundation building time and I don’t hear anything coming out of McCain’s mouth signifying that he understands this. ‘Lipstick?!?’ I’m more offended that in a time where I have watched neighborhoods all around me change due to foreclosures, and inability to maintain or sell homes, McCain doesn’t have the presence of mind to count off an approximation of how many homes he and his wife own. I’m offended that as a man, I can respect a woman enough to listen to what comes out of her mouth, and unbiased, formulate opinions on her views just as I would with a man, but these faux-femanists would suggest to the media and the rest of the world that they have to ‘protect’ Palin from being ‘discriminated’ against. Hello, that’s an oxy moron, morons. You’re calling for deference in an arena of indifference. Anything to win. My daughter’s future is on the line, and it is not winnable. Our children’s futures’ are on the line, and they are not winnable. McCain, your party’s criminal war ended my cousin’s life. I hope Bugliosi brings your true ring leaders to justice, but for now I’ll have to settle for making history on the right side and voting for the 1st African American president.
I wonder how the left would feel if either Republican was throwing out monkey references.
- Posted by marty