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16:54 October 7th, 2008

Round 2 is over — which way are undecided voters swinging?

Posted by: Jeremy Pelofsky
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rtx9bhu.jpgRound two of the presidential debates between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama is over.

How did they do?

The town hall format was seen as an advantage for McCain. Did he live up to expectations?

Obama has been gaining an edge in many battleground states. Did he do anything to undermine or enhance his small lead?

Did they focus enough on the issues? Were undecided voters swayed?

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185 comments so far

These pollsters must be drinking …… EVERY poll has Obama up by 3-5 times their 2 point difference survey. New Hampshire 12 points, Pennsyvania 11 and Mich. and Minn. already in the bag, get real, Find another job guys …… Or is Rueter’s another FOX network/website???

- Posted by John

They both the same, it’s not much of choice,….Ron Paul is my president…

- Posted by A.D

Now, we’re told the rich paid more taxes because they made a greater share of the money. That’s true. “The top 1% earned 22% of all reported income, but they also paid a share of taxes not far from double their share of income.” In other words, the tax code’s already steeply progressive. Yes, even at 35, 36%. And what this proves is the old adage that when you lower taxes, you get increased revenue. Listen to these numbers. “In 1990, the richest 1% were 14% of the nation’s income. They paid 25% of all taxes. In 2000, they paid 37%. In 2005, they paid 39%; and 2006, 40%.” So since 1990, the rich, top 1%, richest 1% have paid from 25% in 1990 to 40% in 2006 of all income taxes. The richest 5% in 1990 paid 44%. In 2000, they paid 56%; in 2005, paid 60%. The top 10% now pay 71%. But the big number is the top 50% are paying 97.1% of all taxes.

“It proves the way to soak the rich is with lower tax rates, and the IRS data from last week provide more powerful validation of that proposition. But, nevertheless, the Democrats and Obama continue to say that these tax cuts have been a giveaway to the rich and it’s a figment of their imagination. Taxes paid by millionaire households more than doubled to $274 billion in 2006, from $136 billion in 2003.” What happened in 2003? We rolled back the Clinton tax increases! “No president has ever plied more money from the rich than George W. Bush did with his 2003 tax cuts. These tax payments from the rich explain the very rapid reduction in the budget deficit to 1.9% of GDP in 2006 when it was 3.5% in 2003.”

- Posted by TJ

I choose OBAMA

McCain was saying way too much “I THINK” and also talking too much about the “PAST”

we do not need to think the past, thats where got us right where we are today. WE MUST think of the future, and McCain to me doesn’t have a future vision.

- Posted by e

I think voters will see that McCain’s display of disdain for a fellow US Senator does not bode well for his ability to work out differences with any world leader “who doesn’t like us very much.”

I don’t see that O. “walked away” with this debate. When the tired old points keep coming back (like “preconditions” and “the surge”) Obama needs to find a fresh angle of attack instead of canned comebacks. I’d like to see him dramatize the Republican attitude in DC that we need to get rid of, and the only way to do that is flush the Republican White House completely. Attack the mindset that got us into this mess and present his ideas of a better mindset.

Obama misses opportunities to make an example of “wasteful” spending when he lets McCain get away with stuff like the planetarium remark. First, does McCain know that a planetarium IS just a huge overhead projector? Is a science museum something that has to be jettisoned from the budget so more oil companies and defense contractors can get more tax cuts?

He also missed bringing up Cheney’s “energy conservation is a personal virtue” remark when he had the perfect opening for it. This is more of the Republican mindset that must be wiped out entirely.

They both say fundamentally too much. I mean, er, they both say “fundamentally” too much. I’d like to hear Obama say “but” less. Keep the points strong; instead of “but I will do this…” just say “And I intend to do this…”

It never sounds like either of them are “thinking on their feet.” When Obama makes a point to comeback at McCain about something, it still feels scripted and kind of passionless.

Security and spirituality are key for next debate. I’d like to see Obama make strong, unequivocal statements on both. Then, if the questions persist in the next newscycle, he can say to McCain or Palin, “weren’t you watching or listening to me? I’ve answered this, yet apparently you weren’t paying attention or you chose to dismiss it.” That would be sweet. I’m sick of the repeated slams that have been addressed over and over again, especially by Palin. (Who, by the way, should be on media shutout until she holds a press conference.)

I think a main winning point for Obama was McCain’s doddering gait across the stage. If he wasn’t such a power hungry lying scuzbucket, my friends, I’d feel sorry for the old coot.

- Posted by Paul Stravinsky

I was so disappointed in Obama. I am beginning to see how much he contradicts himself. Is he suffering from cognitive dissonance? I do not know now if I really believe him anymore. He seems to be more about appearances than substance. It hit me when I heard how he responded, relative to McCain’s answers.

- Posted by Rachel

I was surprised that McCain did not do well in his much touted town-hall format. The camera angles consistently diminished him physically and he had to resort to vague rhetoric too often. Obama was consistently articulate and seemed to connect with the audience much better.

- Posted by Michael

WHY DO YOU GIVE A CNN POLL AND CBS, COME TO FIND OUT CNN ASK THEIR VIEWERS WHO WON, IT IS ALWAYS THE DEMOCRAT, CNN IS SO IN THE TANK FOR OBAMA AND CBS LAST TIME ASKED FAR MORE DEMOCRATS IN THEIR POLL, IF YOU SITE CNN, WHY NOT SITE FOX NEWS, AT FOX NEWS MCCAIN WON BY A HUGE MARGIN, HE ALSO WON ON DRUDGE AND WEL ALL KNOW THAT DRUDGE DOES NOT JUST GET CONSERVATIVES THAT GO THERE, FOX NEWS HAS RATINGS WAY HIGHER THEN CNN SO WHY DOES REUTERS ONLY SITE THEM ON CABLE?????? BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE FOR OBAMA. PEOPLE HEAR POLL RESULTS AND THEY KNOW THAT IT WILL PUSH VOTERS INTO THINKING THEY ARE THE CLEAR WINNER, I THOUGHT MCCAIN WAS WAY MORE EXPEIRENCED, IT SHOWED TONIGHT, HE HAD A PLAN, HE DOES NOT WANT TO RAISE MY TAXES, AND I JUST TRUST HIM MORE, I DO NOT TRUST OBAMA, HE LOOKED LIKE A KID STANDING THERE IN A COLLEGE DEBATE, HIS STYLE IS GOOD, BUT STYLE DOES NOT MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT, HE JUST SCARES ME, THE PRESS AND MEDIA ARE SHOVEING HIM DOWN OUR THROATS, ALL THE PRESS AND MEDIA ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO ELECT HIM, THEY TALK LIKE IT IS OVER, JUST WHAT THEY DID TO HILLARY, TRYING TO TELL HER TO GET OUT OF THE RACE, REMEMBER?????????? WELL IT IS NOT OVER!!!!!!! AND I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN AFTER BEING FOR HILLARY!!!!!

- Posted by Sandra

“. . . that one” won

- Posted by Videography Lab

Obama responses in this 2nd debate show that he understands the issues by explaining them clearly and offering plausible solutions. He demonstrates superior judgement in his opposition to the illegal and ill-advised war in Iraq and with his ability to turn attacks aside to bring people together (unless, as demonstrated by racists and xenophobes, they are obstinately determined to remain separate.)

I want a president who can prevent war not start one for personal gain or vendetta. Obama is a brilliant leader capable of foresight and good judgement based on current facts and history. He listens, absorbs, and integrates new information quickly and is capable of using the advice of experts needed to run our country effectively, smoothly and with attention to essential details, like upholding the Constitution. As a Constitutional Lawyer he is well qualified to uphold his obligations as President.

Obama has years of experience as a Senator for Illinois.

McCain appeals to people who want “Yes or No” answers to all questions even ones that require deep thought, genuine knowledge and thinking outside the box.

The mistaken idea that definitive answers demonstrate knowledge and wisdom is common among people who have not given genuine thought to serious local, national and international issues. McCain may have experience but he hasn’t absorbed the lessons of that experience to serve the public more effectively; only to serve himself and his friends more effectively.
McCain has demonstrated by his lifelong support of deregulation that he does not care about middle class America, the backbone of the economy, and prefers to reward wealthy friends far beyond reasonable entitlement.

The people who refuse to understand Obama repeat foolish and ugly lies they have heard from racist, xenophobic cynics.

- Posted by Louise

It was CLEAR to me the Obama would be a foreign policy disaster. I don’t believe he understands the complexities of foreign affairs at all.

- Posted by theGateKeeper

Neither… both failed to answer the questions as posed… set your political bias’s aside… go back and really pay attention to the questions… and the the answers… none were given… both used “polispeak” to avoid providing the other with any advertising sound bites… so I would have to say that we, the people lost…

How about a last minute write in campaign for Charlie McCarthy… exchanging one dummy for another is no loss… besides, if pulled it off, we get Candace Bergen for “1st Sister… Mortimer Snerd for Chief of Staff… and best yet… Denny Crane for Attorney General… then when openings occur on the Supreme Court he Allan Shore are named associate justices… Come to think of… this is beginning to sound pretty good…

- Posted by Stan Brody

the republicans may have made us look like idiots, but the democrats have admittedly ruined the world economy.

- Posted by james britton

they both lost. obama seems cold and untrustworthy as usual, and mccain seemed desperate and seemed to be trying too hard. sad, but we are the usual victims of our lack of good choices.

- Posted by james britton

William Ayers- according to CBS Bews, Ayers was a terrorist, and Barack Obama associates with him. To me, this could be a dangerous idea, because he may cause terrorist attack in the future.

- Posted by Sang

Americans make me laugh!!!

The Republicans Party has ruined your country in the last eight years and yet you guys give this senior citizen a chance??

What is wrong with you all????????

- Posted by uk

Obama was cool calm and collected - an intelligent leader. McCain looked old and sounded like a 7th grader. Mostly tho, nothing new happened. Except McCain looked even more out of touch on the economy - the mortgage thing he proposed is already in the bailout and besides, obama proposed the same thing months ago!

- Posted by lucyblue

Neither won on any subject of real substance.
Obama’s tone of voice listening to the radio was condescending while McCain’s sounded like a doddering old grandfather. We have an intellectual idiot and a geriatric buffoon as the two top candidates. I’m voting Libertarian even though Barr leaves a lot to be desired.

- Posted by Big Al Jano

Vietnam Veterans don’t like him nor his voting record in the Senate. He only voted 4 x this year and there were 14 issues on the ballot. Can you believe that? War hero 50 years ago, not a hero now. He is an Aristocrat, an Elitist,
with his hands in the pockets of those on Wall Street. He could care less about middle class, health care, or anyone that doesn’t make more than $500,000 a year. Period!!!!

- Posted by jaJ

“That one” won. McCain, whose anger was palpable, looked tired and acted condescending, even to those in the audience who asked questions.

- Posted by oaklynne

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