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April 16, 2009

How is it that America had thousands of Tax Protests yesterday and you don’t have anything listed in your “Top Stories” section?

If there were thousands of individual protests across the county speaking out about war you would have been all over it. But when average American Citizens gather peacefully you act as if it didn’t happen?

Chris

Not one article online about the tea parties. If this had been done during the previous administration your reporters would have been falling all over themselves covering it. What a biased left wing organization. I won’t read your crap again.

S.A.

I have to say supporters of yesterday’s protests certainly did a good job of getting people to complain about our coverage.

We did include several paragraphs about the tea parties in our main Obama tax story yesterday, which seems about right for something that drew “tens of thousands” of people in total. These events make pretty good pictures, and we also did a photo slideshow on them today. GBU Editor

Some activists wear Boston tea party themed costimes as they gather to participate in a tax revolt rally in Santa Barbara, California April 4, 2009. Picture taken April 4, 2009. REUTERS/Phil McCarten

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‘right for something that drew “tens of thousands” of people in total.’

Actually, even the lowball figure the MSM is throwing around is in the hundreds of thousands. I’d guess it was millions, and am sure the July 4th parties will be much bigger (assuming 0bama doesn’t change his leftist ways).

The Dems have miscalculated, as they always seem to…

Posted by Terry | Report as abusive
 

You say: “tens of thousands” of people in total.

There were over 1000 tea parties across America drawing crowds from 1000 to 10,000. The total is more likely 1 million people upwards to 4-5 million people.

You lie!

Posted by FrankG | Report as abusive
 

“Tens of Thousands” ????

This sort of marginalization without investigation, or intentional downplaying of anything favorable to conservatives is why right thinking people are so fed up with the MSM.

I will bet a more accurate estimate of the total crowds will exceed 500,000.

I say this based on two observations:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/04/t ea-parties-appear-to-draw-at-least.html

This from a liberal blog based on itemized newspaper reports that total 250,000.

The Houston estimate given, from a NY Times article, was 2,000 people.

In fact, 8,532 signatures were gathered and I personally observed many, many people passing on signing due to privacy concerns or the wait to sign up. The actual number may have been around 10,000. See http://houstontps.org/

If this under-reporting by a multiple of 2-4 times held true across even a fraction of the total the actual number in attendance would exceed 500,000.

A few more than tens of thousands

Posted by Al | Report as abusive
 

Try over 300,000 people…Bob

Posted by lance | Report as abusive
 

Ten of thousands of people did not protest, hundreds of thousands did and that is an undercounted total! 266,000+ but that only counted about 200 of biggest of them, (there were 20,000 people in Atlanta and the Alamo count was 30,000 according to the park service)there were over 2000 of them yesterday. In my little 35,000 town 500 people came out. I can see clearly now why the print media is dying. It isn’t just online usage, it’s complte leftwng bias. You all missed the biggest story of the year and don’t even realize it yet.They aren’t done there is more to come perhaos next time instead of snickering someone might just want to listen?

Posted by chrisb | Report as abusive
 

When the well runs dry you dig another one.Money is also a well, but no one is noticing.In 1932 the swans in Americia almost became extenct, The great depression hit in 1930, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED TO THEM.They ate them.They are protesting the very thing that is paying there unenployment, and keeping the schools open,now.Whats between there two ears.And the rich will stir it up just because they don’t want to pay a higher tax, they will not even miss the money, if they do not take off with a bonus to another country.Greed brought this on.And is trying to run the rest of us.

Posted by Patricia | Report as abusive
 

Ha, and the truth to the matter is we can pay the national debt off just by using the oil on the Alaska reserve, they know is already there. It belongs to the Americian people, all of us. It is a little treasure chest full of gold waiting for us, to us to help us all. Just like Patrick Henery, and George Washington left it there for us. After they were gone.Because they love there freedom enought to fight for it,and left us that legacy.We can’t distroy our country with no one to watch over our gold mine.It is up to us how we want to use it. It is keeping us energy independant, and regulating our coast of fuel so as not to be price gouged.We now have 0 carbon emission cars,and can now turn carbon nanotubes into metal, surely we can solve this in a productive way.It is not socialism ,it is keeping Americia free.

Posted by Patricia | Report as abusive
 

There is much rubbish printed by the media when reporting crowd sizes because they think they can get away without their claims being challenged. That is no longer the case.

Remember the claimed 70-80,000 in Portland at 0bama’s rock concert? It was less than 30,000, and it is easy to prove with modern tools.

The 200,000 in Berlin? actually around 40-50,000

How many were at his inauguration? 2 million? – No, it was about 550,000

If you can get a photo of the crowd you can come up with a reasonably close estimate of it’s size. I took the satellite photo’s of the inauguration and measured the area(s) occupied by the crowd. You can do this quite accurately using the “ruler” tool in Google Earth, this will give you an accurate square footage of the total area occupied. From that you calculate the number of people based on the crowd density, typically about 4 square feet per person for a standing crowd at a spectator event. It may not be exact but it is a good ball park sanity check.

Sometimes you can debunk crowd numbers just based on other logistics. The Fiesta Bowl Committee in Phoenix claim an attendance of 400,000 for their Fiesta Bowl Parade. That doesn’t even pass a sanity check A quick calculation revels that they would have a crowd packed 45 rows deep along both sides of the entire route to achieve that when in fact the crowd is actually 2 or 3 rows deep. The real attendance is around 20,000. And the policing levels for the parade (about 125 officers)are in line with that size of a crowd.

So if you want to get a good estimate of your local Tea Party crowd then find a photo, relate it to the Google Earth view of the actual space, measure the space with the “ruler” tool, calculate the square footage and then divide by four. You won’t be far wrong.

Posted by Will | Report as abusive
 

As one who participated in the Atlanta Tea Party, I’ve got to admit I’m baffled at the coverage I’ve seen since. I’ve never be active in politics before, but felt compelled to this time because of a growing frustration with our government and the direction they are taking this country – starting with the Bush administration and now amplified 10-fold with Obama. I’m just an independent, middle-class American trying to make a living and raise my family – one of the silent majority that’s usually too busy to get involved. But on Wednesday, my 14 year old son and I packed onto a MARTA train and joined a huge crowd (I’ve heard estimates of 15-20,000) that filled several blocks around the state capital for my first political protest. And now I’m being portrayed as an ignorant southern hick that’s a puppet of Fox News and right wing extremists (I moved here from New York 3 years ago and actually found out about the Tea Party on CNN). That’s just fueling my frustration more and almost guaranteeing that this won’t be the last of my political involvement during this upcoming election cycle.

Posted by Paul | Report as abusive
 

Parents accused of taking children on burglary
Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:38pm EDT

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NEW YORK (Reuters) – A mother was accused on Wednesday of driving a getaway minivan with her two young children inside after burglaries at two New York City homes.

Prosecutors said Erika Santana, 23, drove the van with her four-year-old and five-month-old children inside after Hugo Lantigua, 22, who is the baby’s father, and Pedro Camillo, 19, broke into two houses in the borough of Queens.

Santana, Lantigua and Camillo face charges including burglary, criminal possession of a weapon and endangering the welfare of a child, and face up to 25 years in prison.

“It is unthinkable that a mother and father would put their children in harm’s way while allegedly committing these crimes. It is even more unimaginable that they would allegedly do so with a loaded handgun in their vehicle,” Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said.

(Reporting by Michelle Nichols; Editing by David Storey)

If a handgun in the vehicle made them so unsafe, did the police disarm before giving them a ride? Flagrant anti-gun sentiment from the D.A., and not needed for the story.

Posted by Len Kasper | Report as abusive
 

The tea parties are just a beginning! As more and more people get hit in the wallet by wasteful government spending, everyday citizens are getting more and more tired of politician\’s promises. More and more people are waking up to the fact that government is not the solution and is the cause of our financial woes!
You can fool some of the people some of the time but this will quickly turn against these officials who blame America first, try to kiss up to proven murderous dictators and spend our hard earned taxes while \”guilt-tripping\” us that we need to pay our fair share! We are more than paying our fair share and the politicians on both sides of the aisle will be getting the message that wasteful government needs to be reigned in!
If you are in a high tax state with ridiculously high property taxes, check out a solution at http://www.hometaxguide.com
Wasteful government spending has had its day in the sun! We will turn this country around! Only a fool wants us to turn into Europe where all the incentives to work and produce have been eliminated with taxes that penalize people who want a better life for themselves and their families!
Tim Law
York, PA

 

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