Comments on: What’s next in the Russia-West crisis over Georgia? http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/ Beyond the World news headlines Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:09:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Alex http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1715 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:13:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1715 Angela,

You talking nonsense. USA-owned NATO has no jurisdiction over the world. Nobody gave them right to police other countries.

The way I (and the most of reasonable people here) see it, – Russia has rights to protect her interests. When Gorbachev has torn Berlin Wall down, he has been given a promise, that NATO would not expand to the East. That was a lie. Apparently, Russia was enduring this for too long. But when NATO started openly threatening Russia’s defenses by installing bases in Poland and expanding through CIA-established governments to Ukraine and Georgia, Russia has slapped it in the face. I feel for Georgia, she is a pawn in the Big Game of the USA for world dominance. btw, did the USA help you? I don’t think so. That was a powerful message to NATO, – hands off!

Now Saakashvili has a dilemma, – in order to get accepted to NATO, he has to recognize and drop all claims on S.Ossetia and Abkhazia. Because of his actions, Georgia has lost them forever, and Georgians will never forgive Saakashvili for that! (The last words belong to my friend, a Georgian, also living in the USA).

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By: Alex http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1714 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:09:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1714 Felix,

What do Jews have to do with the fact that Albanians were Hitler’s allies during WWII and Serbs were fighting fascists? Stop distorting the history!

You can copy/paste irrelevant texts from Wikipedia as much as you wish, that wouldn’t change the fact, that Kosovo is a historical part of Serbia.

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By: Angela http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1633 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:00:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1633 No matter how many times would Russia cry “why can’t I do what the US did in Kosovo?”, nobody in the whole world would give it a hand.

Not even Serbia, portrayed here as a victim of the USA.
Because everybody understands the difference between the policemen NATO-USA and the bully Russia.

Maybe USA applied force a couple of times, but it had good reasons to do so, and these reasons were accepted and supported by a number of powerful allies.

And who supports Russia today, except Hesbolahh, Hamas :) and the charming amigo from Venesuela?

Nobody. Because Russia, an UN member, applied military force unilateraly, towards a souvereign neighbouring country, also an UN member, looting, raping and killing innocent civiliants.

It behaved like a stone aged barbarian, and all its wipping about ossetian victims would not be able to change that.

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By: Felix http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1618 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:13:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1618 Alex
The serbs showed up in the Balkans in the 5th century.And when they showed up they didn’t bring any land with them.All of the sudden half of the Balkans is serbian land.As for Albanians being Hitler’s allies how come Belgrade was the first city in Europe to be declared Judenrein(free of jews)by the germans?
http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php? id_article=129

This is an article taken from the serbian newspaper Blic 2 years before Kosovo’s independence.Read it and learn about history of Serbia.

Return of state status after 88 years

Has anyone ever congratulated you June 20 when Serbia became a state? On that June 1878 Serbs had reason for celebration. On that day independence of Serbia was proclaimed for the first time.

Today, 128 years later, Serbia shall become an independent state again by a declaration that the Parliament is to pass in a few days.

Does the history repeat itself?

Then territory included present central Serbia. For that territory, without Montenegro, KiM, Vojvodina and Sandzak, Serbia paid its independence in two Serbian-Turkish wars with 20,000 lives.

After difficult years of the Balkan wars /1912-1913/ Serbia enlarged its territory getting Sandzak, KiM and today’s Macedonia. Then followed the WWI /1914-1918/ and setting up of a new state the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenians. At Grand Podgorica Assembly, Montenegrins with large majority voted for Montenegro integration with Serbia. After this war Serbia also got Vojvodina because its regions decided to integrate themselves in Serbia after breakdown of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. By that, however, Serbia lost its state status.

After the WWII, Serbia lost Macedonia that became a federal unit of then Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

In the past, Serbia was wise in choosing its allies. With Slobodan Milosevic, who ‘succeeded’ in confronting Serbia with the most powerful force on the planet, the situation completely changed. Results of that war shall probably soon affect the final map of the Republic of Serbia.

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By: Alex http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1616 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:21:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1616 Felix,
It’s funny, that you touched Nazis and WWII subject. For Serbs were cleansed from Kosovo by German Nazis (not without help from Albanians, Hitler’s allies then). Then cleansing continued by J.Titto, who hated Serbs. Then, when Albanians become a majority on the historical Serb’s land, they started expelling Serbs with criminal activity. They organized KLA (heavily supported by CIA). When Serbian government realized what’s happening, it was too late. And then wraith of NATO (despite UN resolution) started bombing Serbian cities to submission. The rest you probably know. Again, Kosovo was a cradle of Serbian civilization!
Now, Abkhazia and S. Ossetia were never under Georgian jurisdiction, – they are proud and independent people, living on their land for centuries. They were forcefully given to Georgia by communists. And in 1990-th, after USSR collapsed, these two countries immediately broke away as a response to the attempt from Georgian government to take away their autonomy.
An advice, – do not use incendiary words, if you are not familiar with the subject. It just shows your low level of intelligence.

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By: Ostap http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1602 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:29:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1602 Look, my “conspiracy theory” (the first comment) works – today Putin came up with some comment along my lines – I should be his analyst! Or was it so obvious?

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By: Felix http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1601 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:10:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1601 Uncle Sam

Can you post a link or a reference to an internationally recognized document that says that Kosovo is part of Serbia?

Since Nazi Germany,which country in Europe brought back concentration camps,mass graves,ethnic cleansing?

Since you can see the western hipocrisy try to open your eyes a little bit more and see the russian hipocrisy.

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By: Uncle Sam http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1592 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:38:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1592 Not so long ago, the NATO countries invaded Serbia and recognized the independence of its province Kosovo.
They broke the international law for the first time since the collaps of the Nazi Germany. A clear precedent. A dangerous one too.
Russia followod that NATO pattern in Georgia.
Now, the NATO countries condemn Russia for the same thing they did in Serbia. Do they really think the world is so blind?
The world is watching and what people around the globe can see is an unlimited western hipocrisy.

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By: Rob http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1582 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:19:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1582 Shane
Actually the interesting comment regarding the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia on the opening day of the olympics was made by the Georgian president Suckavilliii (or what ever his name is) on CNN and it regards the world leaders being at Beijing. “Great moment to invade a small country” he said. That comment I believe is a declaration of a War Crime. In fact Suckavilliii should be tried for war crimes for actually admitting on CNN he was going to murder thousands of civilians.

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By: Shane http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1578 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:37:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/08/26/whats-next-in-the-russia-west-crisis-over-georgia/#comment-1578 “Greetings from Canada”

Dont you love the free media..Pure example
of propaganda..I laugh at the people who
actualy 100% belives this..Cnn Fox even
bbc..Western Propaganda i think..So Russia
finaly responds to American/EU Imperialism
in Georgia..So wut i dont even think we should
care remember this is russia’s backyard!
Georgia Invaded South Ossetia on the opening day
of the Oylimpic Ceremonies..I wonder why?
Maybe to achieve tactical surpirse..when all
the world media was focus on Beijing and Edwards
affair lol…I think its time sumone stood up to
the US its a bout time…I dont like this Unipolar
world

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