Comments on: A fresh start with Russia: what’s the trade-off? http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/01/28/a-fresh-start-with-russia-whats-the-trade-off/ Beyond the World news headlines Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:09:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Juri http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/01/28/a-fresh-start-with-russia-whats-the-trade-off/comment-page-1/#comment-5827 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:49:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=2385#comment-5827 “Howls of betrayal”? (From Eastern Europe). Reuters staff, give me a break please. We Eastern Europeans have been members of NATO for several years, there is more than an implicit understanding involved in this compact. But seriously – “howls of betrayal”? Is this not below the belt? Is this dispassionate? Is this use of non-loaded terminology? You could have written this in tens of ways. For example: “If Obama does not support giving NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, we can expect strongly worded objections from the neo-cons, the Baltic States and Poland”. “Howls of disapproval” my foot, when do we in fact truly hear the Baltic States or Poland beating the podium with their shoes? An unkind cut. To Ernst: will Obama be duped by Russia? What if he is has been going along with the plan all along? His thesis at Columbia was on the topic of bilateral nuclear arms reduction. I am for a reduction in nuclear arms if at all possible as much as the next man – indeed, total scrapping of the things would be desirable – but the Soviet Union used the Peace and arms reduction platform in an active measures kind of way during the Cold War to its own advantage and in an attempt to use (or actually abuse) the Summer of Love generation in the West, to attain the subjective and less than sincere ends of the Kremlin. With the KGB – oops, I mean the FSB – now running the show in Moscow, is there any reason to believe the objective or the methods have changed?

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By: ernst http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/01/28/a-fresh-start-with-russia-whats-the-trade-off/comment-page-1/#comment-5760 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:02:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=2385#comment-5760 Obama will end up being duped by both the Russians and the Iranians and the unfortunate consequence will be that the people of eastern Europe and the middle east will suffer under the rule of new dictators. Lack of a missile defence shield over eastern Europe will enable both the Russians and Iranians to threaten those countries along with Israel. They already control much of the energy needs of Europe and energy blackmail will be in their future power play. Both Russia and Iran are teamed up for new areas of domination as the US unilateraly withdraws under Obama. Get ready for a middle east facing Iranian nuclear weapons and Obama will standby as it develops much as US President Bill Clinton negotiated a “no nuclear” treaty with North Korea in the early 90’s which they violated and went on to develope a bomb; but it will much much more serious threat when Iran has it because they have the often stated will to use it on their neighbors!!!

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By: Spooky http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/01/28/a-fresh-start-with-russia-whats-the-trade-off/comment-page-1/#comment-5719 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:05:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=2385#comment-5719 Obama should take care. Treat Russia with respect, but do not play into its hands. Russia seeks to build up its global influence. Energy pipelines and NATO supply routes will only give Russia more leverage over the West in the future.Most of Russia’s posturing really has nothing to do with the opinions of the rest of the world. It is more to do with pleasing its own civilians, who always look for signs that their nation has rebuilt into a superpower.Russia has lots of skeletons in the closet. Military action in Georgia. Strict control over media. Government control over most Russian corporations. Human rights activists and journalists having “accidents” while in police custody. An ex-KGB leader who is about to be voted President-for-Life.Perhaps Obama should leave the Bear well enough alone, and politely work around it. As long as relations are frosty, America will not need to bend over backwards to accomodate it.Something which might be useful when the Iran issue comes to a head in 12 months or so.

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By: Philippe Mandangi http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/01/28/a-fresh-start-with-russia-whats-the-trade-off/comment-page-1/#comment-5715 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:20:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=2385#comment-5715 The world has too much conflicts to deal with and it is sensible to avoid new ones, especially when the world superpowers are at loggerhead. The USA and Russia have heavily invested in missiles than they have engaged in addressing world poverty, democracy deficit and globalisation issues. When the civilised world carry on using force to resolve its differences, what lessons is going to preach to Congo, Rwanda, Uganda, Sudan, Guinea, Sri Lanka, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Angola, Zimbabwe, Bosnia, Isreal, Palestine, Kosovo…Time is up for new world order.

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