Hello everyone,

Please go to China, including Tibet province, use you eyes to observe, use your ears to listen, then you will know whether Chinese people (including Tibetans) are suffering or not, whether we should support Dalai or not, whether we should buy Chinese goods or not.

Billy Jack, you can’t be any more hypocritical. You yourself is occupying the land of an indigenous people. If Tibet and Xinjiang aren’t part of China by your logic, the country Canada doesn’t exist. There is no reason for China to give up any of its territory unless the entire Western Hemisphere is vacated.

I always wonder how the exile Tibetans make living, they do not produce any thing, they do not do any meaningful business, they even do not herd, Everyone of them seems to be a professional demonstrator, then who feed them, who gave them the money to travel all over the world to protest?I think that’s the reason why they do anti-china protest restless, because they paid for that!! what a shame!

I agree entirely that it makes sense for the international community, governments & grass roots peoples to concertedly undermine China’s rise through economic measures especially at this time– personally I’ve begun this this year, by taking care not to purchase anything from China as much as possible, which I’m glad to say is not actually all that difficult– until China, actually I mean more specifically the PRC leaves Tibet, and Xinxiang too. Economic measures may secondarily help the Chinese people themselves to achieve true freedom under their own definitions that accord with international standards for the rule of law & human rights for themselves at the same time.
But at the same time it does seem that we are all in together the catastrophe of environmental destruction, which China is already and will continue to suffer greatly from if we do not find ways to assist them through meaningful and pro-active co-operation to improve their lot in that most fundamental of issues, being as it is more consequential than only the question of humanity.
That’s what I really care about, & I have a question that has just occurred to me while becoming more aware of the plight of the Uighurs & other ethnic groups being swamped in their own countries– Yes, I no longer consider Tibetan or Uighur territory to be lawfully occupied by the PRC, I now only fully regard these territories as being rightfully under the sovereign stewardship of their original peoples, in spite of the ongoing illegal occupation by the PRC!–, so, my question is… if the PRC has had this ‘one child policy’ for well more than a generation now, then why are there so many millions of an apparently growing Han Chinese population, so much so that they are able to carry out their policy of overwhelming the indigenous populations of Tibet & Xinxiang & elsewhere? Should not the Han population have already been reduced by more than half by now? Anyway, just another elementary question to this that has become interesting.
Responding more directly to HH’s invitation ‘from exile’! for others to visit Tibet… … this is logical enough for what it is, as he requests that others visit to learn the truth of the situation, there, on the ground, from the people & to report the truth to the rest of the world though it feels like what is really needed & just perhaps is a part of what he was meaning intentionally by this invitation, that we need to pressure all our governments/leaders to go there & visit themselves, and not just to visit of course but to go there to learn the truth & stay if necessary in solidarity with Uighurs & Tibetans to be witness to supporting them while they truly liberate their countries.
On this point, and concerning Canada, which stands at least as good a chance as any other political entity to enact this, the Liberal Party of Canada held a convention this weekend past, & during the proceedings I took particular note of a calling statement by their former leader, the Honorable Stephan Dion– one of Canada’s best by the way– that it would make sense for Canadians to go to China to fight for human rights there as Canadians are fully protected by international law to do so… ,so, I basically would like Stephan to lead a delegation of Canadian politicians to do this… & we’ll see, won’t we!

To Tony,

I agree with you on that. My main point was that, when people from outside talk about how much they care about Tibet, they should care about both their economy well being and political freedom.

So far most people from the west who claims that they care about Tibetans, and even a lot of Tibetans in exile community has shown very little interest on the economy situation for Tibetans. That is very troubling.

My view is China neither tries to dodge human right issue, nor tries intentionally to go against it. During the past few decades China not only made great progress economically, but also politically. Ordinary Chinese enjoys much more freedom nowadays than before. But just like China cannot afford the same level of living standard as the west, China cannot afford the same level of political freedom as well. So basically while great progresses are being made, China is still far from there. It takes time. These people believe all that is needed is a regime change and everything will just align into perfect order overnight are pure naive.

A lot of people who post at here, especially many in the exile community are only filled with hatred and they are not ready to listen or consider anybody else’s view. Those are no different than jihads in a way, and DL has more or less helped fanning the conflict directly or indirectly. I believe that will lead to nowhere. In that regard, I believe CCP’s approach is a more rational and pragmatic approach.

To JC.
It is not about trade off between economic development and freedom, it is about the need to define tangible measure of both economic development and freedom. The CCP government did this, it has development plan to tibet, and committed to invest huge amount of money into tibet, those measure will surely develop economic in tibet, and tibetan people will surely benefit from that. The government also issued its first action plan on human rights, vowing to address a host of issues. Those measure are not perfect, but it do help to improve both economic and freedom. By contrast, HH the Dalai lama, and hie government in exile did nothing on the measure instead of shouting slogans, spread hatreds among people, what a Spiritual leader he is.

China needs the West liked or not.
China is trying to make Western match, but that is not posible without values even if you are going to do business. The antagonism is there, China wish to be aproved by the countries and use the business as a excuse the “globalization” to be insert in the world,politics and power, but by other side their values are not in concordance with the Global world values like Respect and Dialogue and I am not meaning only Western values. Asian people has a code of Honor based in values and spirituality too, Western and Asian people share some similarities of those values, the way this values are expressed are different.
China knows that their actions against spirituality can not be aniquilated, even all the efforts that The MAOIST try to do until now.So to put down the DALAI LAMA was not the brightest idea and action they did when they took power and control of China. And also to persecute other religions and expression of spirituality too. Their policies against culture and spirityality is now against them , the populations feels the need of express spirituality.
The evidence of that is the furios hate and aniquilation of Tibet culture, why? because China knows that even you aniquilite any kind of religion, they can not aniquilate the voice of the spirit, do you know that I’Ching is a constant inspiratiopn for life in China? and Asian people of other countries?….even it is post as a only game or diminished only to be used for a oracle, or adivination purposes…but Asian people Know the real meaning of I’ching and Tao and Buddism and the ancestors meaning.Philosophy and interpretation of life are inside the Asian people. Even China try to disapear all that, spirituality, to dream , art , etc.VALUES are inspired by QUALITY NOT QUANTITY. Values vs. Money and controling power.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE, CHINA DO NOT WANT TO LET THEIR PEOPLE TO THINK OR BE spiritual. You do not have to be rich, or a wise person, or a iluminated person to feel in your inside need of spirituality, to believe in Freedom and Peace, all of us as Human Beings have that. LIked or not. A regime as China sooner or later must address that. Now they are addressing that by trying to anulate Tibet…..they are wrong, you can not go against your own nature.
ALso look what happened with the past Olympiads….the spirit of the Olympiads was gone…the sport events where done, but the spirit of Global coexistance and Harmony was not there , the good vibration of the spirit was not there, was the emptyness who reign there. Even that the participants as Human Beings gave a lesson of competence and Coexistance and spirituality , something China with all the effort they did was not acchieved. The persons that participated in the OLympics gave the lesson to China. The world gave a lesson to China.

Remember always quality and values are not negociable.