Comments on: Where gays do serve, openly, in the military http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/ Beyond the World news headlines Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:09:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: david0296 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-21258 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:49:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=7631#comment-21258 “In the U.S. military, there is no tolerance for either heterosexual or homosexual relationships. There’s a policy against any sexual relations in the service. It’s not part of the culture, he said.”

But heterosexuals CAN serve openly and they CAN be in relationships (otherwise there wouldn’t be wives with kids living in military housing). So letting people know about your orientation is only okay if you’re straight? Basically what Gen. Robert Magnus is trying NOT to say is that he thinks that Americans are INCREDIBLY homophobic (like himself), so much so that we have to placate these homophobes by forcing gay people to pretend to be straight. When it’s framed in that context it makes Americans look incredibly bigoted… and about 20 years behind the times.

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By: DavidFromSydney http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-16021 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:10:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=7631#comment-16021 Bdy2010 – Maybe gay soldiers should only sit in the back of the armored vehicles too? I’m guessing you’re not going to the Mardi Gra this year?

Gays can’t marry in nearly every Western countries that have gays in the military so that is a moot argument. I don’t know many places that have same sex showers too (maybe Roman style baths being an exception). Also, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is dumbing down the military by basing who can serve on sexual preference instead of experience and skills which is especially silly argument when we’re fighting two wars at the moment.

Maybe one of your arguments could be that gay dudes are losing their super fit stereotypes so maybe can’t pass the fitness tests? 😛

Also, if you want to generalize don’t say American culture can’t handle it as it’s just the Tea Cup Republican culture that can’t. Most Democratic policies are more aligned with the rest of the world.

The question is, why support any policy that promotes intolerance?

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By: bikebrainiac http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-16020 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:44:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=7631#comment-16020 Posted by Timuchin:
“In America the Christians are tolerating the Humanists, despite their efforts to eradicate the Christian influence. Most patriots are at least Christianized.
In Europe the Humanists have just about crushed out the Christian influence. However, the Muslims are about to crush out the Humanists in a few short years. Their priorities for gays is to kill them all.”

This kind of drivel is typical of fanatical christians, only found in the USA. They cling to irrational beliefs for which they routinely find acceptance within their own circles.
Europeans have largely done away with the common American protestant black and white judgemental views of fire and brimstone; routinely leveling judgement at anyone who is different, or who disagrees with their narrow world view. In the US, it is common and quite widely tolerated, despite being a structured belief system on par with muslim fanaticism.
Depiste their objections, American christians are judgemental, intolerant and closed to any view contrary to their own.
Do you really want “us” to be like “them?” a common american christian rallying cry (After all, it IS about “us” and “them”; “them” being the enemy of the moment.
Americans like to think their simplistic view of the world is the right one; everyone else must be wrong. Didn’t GWB and the neocon (christians) demonstrate that view was wrong?

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By: DavidFromSydney http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-16018 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:28:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=7631#comment-16018 Australian companies have to get special government waiver’s to do business with the US military because it discriminates against gay people. This is a non-issue down here, but maybe it is because we don’t have Republicans?

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By: Bdy2010 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-16016 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:35:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=7631#comment-16016 This article is all good and well but I wonder if the author has ever served in the US Military. I think not.

I on the other hand have served for 20 years. I have no problem with someone that is gay serving but I do have a problem with any of the standards being dumbed down and I will expect my privacy. So there will need to be a separate shower. After all you would not expect women and men to shower together.

The problem lies int he fact that our culture, as Americans, is still way behind that of these NATO countries. So we expect to force a standard on the military that our society has yet to accept. Once gays and lesbians are able to marry legally in all 50 states then we can look at changing the policy since at that point social progress will have reached it’s nexus.

Also comparing us to NATO isn’t such a wise move. Our allies stand by us and do a bang up job but they have different abilities than we bring to the fight.

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By: Timuchin http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/02/03/where-gays-do-serve-openly-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-16014 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:32:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=7631#comment-16014 This is a collision of worldviews. The Christians have one set of priorities and the Humanists and Gnostics have others.

In America the Christians are tolerating the Humanists, despite their efforts to eradicate the Christian influence. Most patriots are at least Christianized.

In Europe the Humanists have just about crushed out the Christian influence. However, the Muslims are about to crush out the Humanists in a few short years. Their priorities for gays is to kill them all.

Do you really want us to be just like Europe?

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