Comments on: The party’s over in Ciudad Juarez http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/06/18/party-is-over-ciudad-juarez/ Beyond the World news headlines Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:09:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: A.M.Olesker http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/06/18/party-is-over-ciudad-juarez/comment-page-1/#comment-18061 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:54:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=8994#comment-18061 Tireguy, I see where you are coming from with the grim prognosis, but brute force is not the only answer, nor do I think it is the answer at all.

Regardless of what you think of the Mexican armed forces, federal police, and local law enforcement, the MANY THOUSANDS of men they have deployed in Juarez are certainly collectively better armed, often (though not always) better trained, and clearly the superior force. Attempts to up the manpower have in the long run done nothing, and I doubt the problem is that Mexico isn’t fighting the drug war hard enough- there seems to be at least one massive shootout most days, so the problem is neither the number of boots kicking down doors nor those boots kicking hard enough.

The problem seems to be that the cartels have information access superiority over the forces of order- they not only have better intelligence, but through members of the community, corrupt officials and officers, and their own clever system of moles and lookouts, can access information better and faster. You can’t kill what you can’t find or arrest who you can’t convict. We explore this concept here: http://insurgentconsciousness.typepad.co m/insurgent_consciousness/information_ac cess_superiority-1/

As for how Juarez specifically can deal with criminality, I see something like John Robb’s Resilient Communities springing up if the government cannot take care of business (http://www.typepad.com/services/trackba ck/6a00d83451576d69e200e55011db6f8834). Here, the community will begin providing for defense and social services independently of the government. That is how things have been getting done in unstable areas from Somalia to Jamaican slums.

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By: tireguy http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/06/18/party-is-over-ciudad-juarez/comment-page-1/#comment-18050 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 04:18:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=8994#comment-18050 The industrial base of Juarez will soon fail as well. The businesses that have been destroyed by blackmail and threat will soon drive the greed of the Mexican drug mafia to squeeze the maquiladoras, and murder will soon follow as the desires of the mafioso psychopaths are not met with increasing vigorish. It is the nature of criminals to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. The only cure is for the goose to fight back with equal abandon and superior weapons.

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By: tom_jayson http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/06/18/party-is-over-ciudad-juarez/comment-page-1/#comment-17982 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:17:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=8994#comment-17982 This is so upsetting. It is good to see that reuters is taking an objective viewpoint unlike other media sources. No wonder their integrity is waning as cited by The committee for Media and Newspaper integrity.

http://www.newspaperintegrity.com/index. php

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By: A.M.Olesker http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2010/06/18/party-is-over-ciudad-juarez/comment-page-1/#comment-17973 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:12:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=8994#comment-17973 I’ve started looking at this from the industrial/factory side since that’s such a big part of the Juarez economy, though I hear that the night life, tourist, and entertainment sectors are suffering.

Funny thing is that factories aren’t leaving, and are in fact recovering despite the abysmal situation. But for how long, and to what extent? As the article mentions, investors are getting cold feet. I look into it more here: http://insurgentconsciousness.typepad.co m/insurgent_consciousness/2010/06/crime- a-hollow-state-and-industry-in-juarez.ht ml

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