Comments on: UN tells Mbeki he got it wrong on Ivory Coast http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/ Beyond the World news headlines Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:09:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Ruetz99 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26910 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:39:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26910 What did the UN expect from Mbeki when his past experience all indicate to absolute failure… look @ the Zimbabwe mediation…sic man

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By: Tombotire http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26691 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:06:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26691 Are we supposed to allow someone to rule even if he/she has lost the election? We are setting a bad precedence for this continent…If you have lost go peacefully..

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By: Zuluwhisky http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26652 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:40:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26652 There were a lot of irregularities and illegality of the Ivorian election. Because of what the UN and the IC did, Cote D’Ivoire will be divided for a long time.

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By: pmalo http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26644 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:21:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26644 The US, Britain and its allies like France are just hypocrytes. They preach water and drink wine. They have formed a body they call UN to foster their selfish interests. It is evident that they seek to destabilize stable countries that have resources so that they get advantage of the Instability to exploit the resources. Look at Somalia, people have been dying from fighting,hunger and brutality caused by militiamen. But since Somali is a desert with no resources, neither the UN nor the individual countries has thought of intervening and stabilizing the country. There has been a number of uprising in arab countries; Egypt, Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Syria, Barhain, Libya among others. They only intervened in Ivory Coast and Libya!!! Why, simply because these two countries have resources they want to control. People are dying in Syria but the issue does not bother them THERE IS NOTHING TO GAIN THERE so why waste their time even deliberating on that???? You have power but God is most powereful. One day HE will crush you completely!!!!!

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By: Drog http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26606 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:31:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26606 You are right, Africa must solve African problems. So why is the rest of the world not asked to stay out of Somalia and Ethiopia ? Surely Africa can provide ?

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By: FfFF http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26594 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:07:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26594 I do not think Mbeki was wrong or right, it is still too early to say. And I also get the sense that Nambiar does not really understand what it means to achieve “long lasting democracy in Africa.” Four months is not enough time to adequately declare who was wrong or right concerning the Ivory Coast.

However I do support any effort that comes out of intense dialogue and consultations with all parties involved. Anything else would be a quick fix, which generally does not lead to long lasting peace, especially in Africa.

The West will also save a lot of money by not using military force to try to solve political struggles in Africa. These senseless wars carried out and supported by the West are causing a strain on the world economy, which is now bankrupt.

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By: Podolski http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26589 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:31:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26589 Africa is tired of been told what to do by the west. Mbeki remains the rubicon of Africas future, Viva Mbeki viva

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By: Hmmm... http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26576 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 10:33:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26576 We need to learn to deal with our own issues. Africans ought to be allowed to handle African crises ourselves. There is not a single western nation that has not been through crisis as it shifted governance systems towards democracy. Not a single one made the transition without certain errors and excesses. Indeed, it is to prevent a repeat of the totally unnecessary war of attrition that they themselves waged (and unfortunately drew countless of us from the ‘third world’ into)that the UN was formed in the first place. And none of the conflicts of Africa, grimy as they may be, can in any way compare to those two ‘world wars’. Yet the UN has over the years handled our situations selectively according to the interests of the strongest voices in its security council. Why? Because no one ever wants to pay for someone else’s well-being when they’re not getting anything in return.

It is important also to note that none of the world’s leading nations had to make their transitions to their present democracies as hurriedly as African nations have to today. The fact that they are economically better off should not translate to the right to tell us what to do and how. We have greater capacity than we are given credit for. Worse still (as evidenced even in many of the comments above) we have greater capacity than we give ourselves credit for.

In spite of your errors Mr Mbeki, I applaud your efforts. You are an African willing to take responsibility. I agree with you that we ourselves ought to find solutions for our problems, difficult as that may be, through dialogue. Building democracies isn’t straight forward. It’s even less so in a country virtually split in half, with loyalties aligned to ethnicity, where war has been waged for several years… The French/UN approach seems for now to have worked – especially for French interests. In the long run, La Cote d’Ivoire will pay the price for those interests, even as it reaps their benefits. Did anyone carry out that cost-benefit analysis before writing in to this blog?

The fact of the matter is that we, too, as we act to address crises among ourselves here in Africa, will be influenced by our various interests. I doubt, though, whether the potential damage that will do to our efforts can ever compare to the damage the interests of the wider international community have done over the years. Lets stop being petty and grow up. Building a stable continent cannot happen without cost or pain…

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By: Lebogang http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26554 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:55:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26554 I’m surprised at the blatant criticism of Mbeki’s attempt to be a part of the process of reconciliation in our troubled political landscape across our continent. Africa has a long way to go before we seek to undermine works of people who have literally given the lives for the liberation of our people in south africa amongst other great leaders.

Mistakes will be made to achieve this utopia we think will arise from the wave of a wand. I think context is imperative when having judgement on matters especially in a public forum.

Let’s be responsible with our discourse I’m certain many of you having written on this blog have made mistakes more than once, including myself.

I think Mbeki attempts have to be applauded equally as they are crucified as mediation and its essence is to create a culture of dialogue which will enable an environment for conflict resolutions. As none of us cannot forsee the future it will be more prudent to consider the waves of change with a deeper context than merely interpreting political rhetoric.

Lebo

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By: shozy http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2011/08/18/un-tells-mbeki-he-got-it-wrong-on-ivory-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-26543 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:28:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/global/?p=10600#comment-26543 how can u take someone who has been rejected by his country and his people to mediate in conflict countries THABO MBEKI failed home and away ,he forget and bury himself in the cloud of shame

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