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	<title>Comments on: Rise of BNP reflects voter disengagement</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Tucker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/10/rise-of-bnp-reflects-voter-disengagement/#comment-4617</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is no longer valid to brand the BNP a racist Nazi ideology based Party. This may have been its rootes but times-are-a-changing. A sense of respectibility and a patriotic fervour emanates from the Party that appeals to many disenfranchised Britons. They have a political manifesto that in its pure simplistic terms makes sense to many voters who need something to blame for their misfortunes. I believe we will see an exponential rise in the political influence of this Party in the next five years that will be difficult to stop. No amount of digging skeletons from the closet will counter this. The current Government fraudulent claims and the economic mess are a perfect backdrop for the BNP. Only a return to prosperity and a moderation of the current immigration policy will reverse support for the BNP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is no longer valid to brand the BNP a racist Nazi ideology based Party. This may have been its rootes but times-are-a-changing. A sense of respectibility and a patriotic fervour emanates from the Party that appeals to many disenfranchised Britons. They have a political manifesto that in its pure simplistic terms makes sense to many voters who need something to blame for their misfortunes. I believe we will see an exponential rise in the political influence of this Party in the next five years that will be difficult to stop. No amount of digging skeletons from the closet will counter this. The current Government fraudulent claims and the economic mess are a perfect backdrop for the BNP. Only a return to prosperity and a moderation of the current immigration policy will reverse support for the BNP.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/10/rise-of-bnp-reflects-voter-disengagement/#comment-4609</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe, that had you asked the people who voted for the BNP in these areas whether they actually wanted the BNP in power, the answer would surprise you....apparently.  Voting for the BNP is seen as a protest vote by many at a time when debate about immigration is stamped upon as racist at its root the moment it begins.

I can give you a fine example.  Recently there began, just began mind you, a debate about immigration and housing.  This lasted about 5 minutes until Keith Vaz comes out and states that immigration is not a criteria for the allocation of social housing.  Thereby implying that it is all a rouse by the racist far right to stir up trouble.  The problem is of course that Keith Vaz is technically right and it takes a moment to correct what he has said to reveal the truth, problem is in the time it takes you to correct Keith Vaz you are painting yourself into a corner where you are actually just being racist and trying to make up excuses.

Yes housing is not allocated by immigration, however, being an immigrant will put you in a position where you are far more likely to be a priority case for housing.  You are far less likely to have a job and therefore income for private housing, you are far less likely to have family or friends in the local area to house you etc etc etc.

So while the reality being lived by many is that immigrants ARE getting council housing above their children and this is something that troubles them, and this troubling does NOT make them racist.  Any attempt at discourse concerning this matter in the mainstream is painted as racism.  Thus they turn, in protest, to parties like the BNP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe, that had you asked the people who voted for the BNP in these areas whether they actually wanted the BNP in power, the answer would surprise you&#8230;.apparently.  Voting for the BNP is seen as a protest vote by many at a time when debate about immigration is stamped upon as racist at its root the moment it begins.</p>
<p>I can give you a fine example.  Recently there began, just began mind you, a debate about immigration and housing.  This lasted about 5 minutes until Keith Vaz comes out and states that immigration is not a criteria for the allocation of social housing.  Thereby implying that it is all a rouse by the racist far right to stir up trouble.  The problem is of course that Keith Vaz is technically right and it takes a moment to correct what he has said to reveal the truth, problem is in the time it takes you to correct Keith Vaz you are painting yourself into a corner where you are actually just being racist and trying to make up excuses.</p>
<p>Yes housing is not allocated by immigration, however, being an immigrant will put you in a position where you are far more likely to be a priority case for housing.  You are far less likely to have a job and therefore income for private housing, you are far less likely to have family or friends in the local area to house you etc etc etc.</p>
<p>So while the reality being lived by many is that immigrants ARE getting council housing above their children and this is something that troubles them, and this troubling does NOT make them racist.  Any attempt at discourse concerning this matter in the mainstream is painted as racism.  Thus they turn, in protest, to parties like the BNP.</p>
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		<title>By: tim sharp</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/10/rise-of-bnp-reflects-voter-disengagement/#comment-4529</link>
		<dc:creator>tim sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree James. The BNP really is a one issue party and has capitalised (mostly unfairly) on the Government's difficulty in establishing and communicating a transparent borders and immigration policy over the last 12 years. 9/11 no doubt gave them a boost and the unpopularity of the established politicians just before local and european elections probably helped them along too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree James. The BNP really is a one issue party and has capitalised (mostly unfairly) on the Government&#8217;s difficulty in establishing and communicating a transparent borders and immigration policy over the last 12 years. 9/11 no doubt gave them a boost and the unpopularity of the established politicians just before local and european elections probably helped them along too.</p>
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