Comments on: “Week of Action” on arms trade treaty http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/ Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4708 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:37:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4708 Rius is right. If there has been a change in military equipment sales it will be noted in Janes shortly. GD you are correct. Obama is pushing for other nations to modernize their “Obsolete” military’s with new U.S. made hardware.As a U.S. citizen I am hard pressed to identify a time that we stood united behind all of our ideals. At best these ideals were used to motivate the masses to war so a privileged few could prosper.We live in a world where the western life style is desired by more and more. If all of humanity consumed resources like the U.S. we would need three Earths. Ultimately we will have to learn to live with less in the wealthier countries while uplifting the poor everywhere. The alternative is the age old struggle for resources. War, if it hasn’t already begun.

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By: Robalin http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4701 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:51:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4701 Might be true that arms industry is interested in a level playingfield in international arms trade regulations. But regarding control standards, it is pretty clear that they are just going for the lowest common denominator. And during current economic crisis, governments too are interested in promoting their economy including conventional arms manufacturers in order to save jobs. Will they always resist pressure from workers on the streets? Current press reports that Belgium – pressed by the unions – have redently licensed a major small arms deal with libya, indicates that even within the eu, which is considered having an exemplary arms transfer control system (the now legally binding code of conduct), standards might already be eroding. If the eu can’t hold its own house in order, how can they credibly be lobbying for a global arms trade treaty?

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By: David Steven http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4645 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:49:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4645 It’s important to remember the big picture here: that the world is poised on the edge of a major new nuclear arms race (a nuclear Iran will almost inevitably lead to a rush by Arab states to acquire similar capabilities).Also that nuclear weapons are most likely to be used by new nuclear powers (Hiroshima – and near misses during the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Pakistan/India Kargil crisis).We should therefore seize with both hands any opportunity to strengthen and build trust in a rules-based international arms control system.It’s worth remembering the example of the last American president to be serious about arms control – Ronald Reagan, who came close in 1986 to agreeing a deal with Mikhail Gorbachev to abolish all nuclear weapons, blind siding his officials who had not even considered that such a dramatic move could be possible.Even though the Reykjavik talks broke down, Reagan still achieved remarkable progress. In Kissinger’s words, “he transformed what had been a marathon race into a sprint.”Schultz, Perry, Kissinger and Nunn have recently put the idea of a nuclear free world back on the agenda. John Duncan’s argument that the Arms Trade Treaty will help make nuclear arms control more possible is thus spot on.

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By: Oistein http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4625 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:04:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4625 I think a set of strong global rules is the way to go if we are to get international arms trade under control. And for all its short comings, the UN should be the place for discussions and eventual negotiations of an arms trade treaty.But we need an arms trade treaty that is effective – that is, a treaty that will stop weapons ending up in the wrong hands, hands that use them to fuel bloody conflicts, poverty and serious human rights abuses. For this to happen it has to be tough! And it has to be built on international law – like International human rights law, humanitarian law and countries obligations to promote development.When it comes to the US (still the world’s biggest arms exporter), I think Obama might change things. I saw the Control Arms campaign has launched a new report to make Obama support the ATT. Go sign the the petition at www.controlarms.org/en/obama

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By: rambaud 2 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4622 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:49:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4622 It is all too easy to say from a position of comfort, where armed violence does not have a systemic impact on your life and livelihood, that an ATT is just fassying around when the real question is how do we deal with conflict.When you think of large-scale conflicts in which guns have apparently not been primarily employed, you probably think of the Rwandan Genocide. But the reality was that there were loads and loads of guns there – what often happened was that commanding squads who were armed with guns would create a perimeter and then you’d get the machete squads going into that. It was very strategically planned. Guns are force multipliers – that’s what they do. They turn a conflict into an exponentially bigger bloodbath.The big problem, in response to the second point raised by drewbie, is that that “black market” you refer to kind of already exists. Just like in the movie ‘Lord of War’ there are many, many loopholes which unscrupulous agents can exploit to divert shipments of arms and ammo to really REALLY bad people who will use these lethal tools to commit atrocities.Personally Id quite like to give arms dealers and their best customers a hard time.

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By: krishnamurthi ramachandran http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4621 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:43:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4621 Dear Sir,Great Debate on Week of action on Arms by Mr.John Duncan is a remarkableone.We are always talking about arms purchases by ruling Countries and her rebels for achieving their aims.These are all bad.All nations should reduce their arms purchase or build up for any problematic actions.Of course, nations should have enough arms for their security,protection,and for safeguards.Better building,storing more arms are not healthy signs.It may go to wrong hands.Prevention is better than curing.

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By: gd http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4619 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:01:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4619 LET”S BE REAL GUYS ! The US just made 40 billion this year from selling arms ( see reuters article today )I don’t think the US people and government really care about doing the right thing when big money is involved. Just watch Obama’s new financial regulations, they will washed down the toliet bowl of history by the congress( at the demand from the lobbists, remember those people Obama was going to get rid of!)

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By: drewbie http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4616 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:47:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4616 B. Free is correct. Such a treaty would make its signers feel better about themselves, and open up a new black market to many new places. Guns are too simple and too useful to be set aside by people who think they need them.

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By: B.Free http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4614 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:40:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4614 There are many arms manufacturers all over the world and they want to sell what they make. So which ever state or group that has the most money can usually get the best arms and win their conflict. The issue is not about arms. It is about conflicts. If you stopped all arms movements world wide what would happen? Nothing! Conflicts have been going on since before civilization. If they don’t have guns they use machetes. They will tie their enemy to a tire, fill it with gas and light it up to terrorize the people they want to control. How do you stop conflict? Well even if nations were not promoting conflict in one area or another there would still be conflict. People are not created equal. And taking for Samuel Colt, weapons do make people more equal. It is the unarmed that are usually slaughtered. It would be nice to think we could live in a world where weapons were not necessary but that is fantasy. The World isn’t fair and conflict is a fact of life. The UN should be working on how to address conflict and stop worrying about arms sales.

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By: Peter H http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/14/week-of-action-on-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-4610 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:37:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=1840#comment-4610 I think rius might find that the US isn’t the number one main arms dealer, and unfortunately it’s not the only area they are falling behind in. (I’m not an American, but I’d rather see America as the beacon it once was remain, as fundamentally in their idealistic state they do stand for good things).I’m not too certain about Sweden being a symbol of purity either… they have a very interesting between the two world wars history which you really have to dig into just to find any scant information about. They were quite helpful in developing the German arms industry prior to the NSDAP taking over from Hindenberg (mind you the Russians were too!).

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