Comments on: Managers face crucial new challenges in recession http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/09/10/managers-face-crucial-new-challenges-in-recession/ Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Martin Clarke http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/09/10/managers-face-crucial-new-challenges-in-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-6776 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:01:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3180#comment-6776 Well no, I am not kidding.
Your observation seems to reflect a sweeping generalisation. Twenty years experience of working with managers from all over the world tells me there are leaders out there who are capable of creating space for good quality debate about values and principles in business. Whilst we can all point to leadership failures, my experience also tells me leadership is harder than it looks from the outside.

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By: Rhoops http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/09/10/managers-face-crucial-new-challenges-in-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-6771 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:53:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3180#comment-6771 “Leaders who can create…”
You’re kidding right?
Our lot? Creative? Apart from large incomes, the supporting tiers of worthless bureaucracy to create income comfort zones, and waffle-speak to hide it all behind, I fail to see what our contemporary Administrator Leaders have ever positively created.

Stultifying Bureau-Democracy is a default option in the absence of leadership. I suspect it’s a side effect of the political battles of the early C20 which saw off the last vestiges of aristocratic rule, and replaced it with the economically focussed, poorer educated and generally witless to the larger picture middle class.

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By: mark http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/09/10/managers-face-crucial-new-challenges-in-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-6704 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:11:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3180#comment-6704 Nothing written above one could disagree with, however, given the incredibly destructive impact of a whole industry sector which brought our economy to the brink, management consulting advice seems generally quite anodyne.

If consultants existed during the second world war they would be advising the allies to “keep focused on maintaining their moral compasses and on an helicopter view” when negotiating with Germans – a hard thing to do when bullets and bombshells are landing round you and killing your mates.

Given that the most financial devastation occurred in the US and UK, The value of management consultants to US and UK businesses and economies urgently needs exactly the short of challenge and devil’s advocacy that Dr Clarke recommends above for any organisation.

Having myself completed an MBA at Cranfield (which does educate and train good leaders and managers) and then worked for 10 years as a management consultant, I came to the conclusion before this recession/depression that too much of consultancy services are not worth the fees paid because clients are simply not demanding enough.

This is the case especially when it comes to the public sector and taxpayers money where senior management’s capacity to waste money generally including on consultancy fees, is in my experience, endless.

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