Comments on: Digital Britain stuck in the Dark Ages http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/ Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Peter Schwarz http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7224 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:44:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7224 Very interesting reading and clearly there is far more to high speed Broadband than I had previously imagined. I shall watch this space with much anticipation.

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By: Chris Dawson http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7222 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:07:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7222 Broadband in this country has been a joke for years.

I remember when in 2001/2002 my friends in holand started getting 20mb ADSL not fibre

Most are on at least 50mb now.

I can not watch TV correctly over the internet.

This country is a joke when it comes to broadband, they may as well say everyone has internet look they can use dialup.

The downstream needs to be at least 6mb NOW , to allow for tv/movies over the internet correctly.

The whole infrastructure needs sorting.

The target should be by 2012 20mb not 2mb

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By: Digger http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7219 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:24:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7219 As to 2 Mbps, it depends whether you want to read the financial press and do share trading or play on line games

Technically it is a waste of time and money to overlay the wire network with a fibre optic one

We should wait and leapfrog that stage and go for high e.r.p. satellite telecoms which can have massive bandwidths and total client mobility

Much of the third world now has common mobile telephony without any land lines, they leapfrogged that stage

More haste, less speed

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By: Graham Bollan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7218 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:22:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7218 No other company is allowed to lay new fibre in London other then BT. ?? Nonsense.

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By: Ian Kemmish http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7217 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:16:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7217 “For our part, Global Crossing suggests Ethernet services” – if you want to distinguish your proposed infrastructure from BT’s, you’re going to have to give the taxpayers and shareholders (whom you presumably want to chip in for it) a lot more detail than just using the tradename of a bright yellow cable that never got above 10 Mbp/s….

After all, Global Crossing’s hands weren’t entirely clean in the “dark fibre” scandal – how do you intend to convince us that you will invest our money more wisely this time?

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By: Netherlands http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7200 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:08:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7200 Thank you Ted for putting forward an excellent insight in to the lack of Governments understanding on speeds required for 21st Century consumers and businesses. A good suggestion is the use of Ethernet as underlying technology. Fiber in every premise will certainly lay the foundation for UK’s strong economic growth and should be seriously considered. Thank you, once again.

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By: Dutch http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7195 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:06:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7195 Excellent article. More information on Britain’s slowing moving technical leap.
I’ve worked as an Internet backbone engineer in the UK, Canada and U.S. In the UK the problem solely lies in the lap of BT.
No other company is allowed to lay new fibre in London other then BT. Or get into the telecoms market to compete with BT. Whether you’re a business or end consumer BT owns the lines. No competition is not good for consumers, business and inhabits growth. There are plenty of resellers but all have to buy from BT.

Canada telecommunications is a good example, it was called Bell Canada long ago. These were the days when the Canadian government debated what exactly can be put over copper or fibre cable, voice or data or both. Quickly they learned you can’t regulate it. Internet Protocol is to powerful. Rogers communication got into the fibre laying game in the 90’s and years later sells every possible form of communication a consumer would need, cell, home internet, home television, everything. Leaving Bell Canada still trying to pitch long distance charges and bad DSL services. Fibre was the way to go and Bell realised it too late.
Britain telecommunications is still regulated by organisations and supported by a government that doesn’t fully understand technology. All at the expense of the British public.

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By: cyberdoyle http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/10/05/digital-britain-stuck-in-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-7190 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:21:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=3579#comment-7190 Glad you have posted this article. It is a great worry to us all, especially in rural areas that we are never going to be able to compete with other countries, or use Ecommerce, Educational sites, Online healthcare and many other fantastic innovative applications in digitalbritain. The current plan to removed DACS, run new copper and bond pairs together (BET) proposed by the incumbent telco (openreach) is a scandal, especially when they want government money to do it. The simple fact is that govt don’t get IT and don’t understand it is actually cheaper to run fibre than obsolete copper. There are very powerful clever people running the copper cabal, and articles like yours might make other clever powerful people wake up and fight back to save our next generation.
We need fibre to every home, to provide ubiquitous connectivity for everyone who wants it.
Broadband and internet access is a utility. It has so much potential to enrich lives and bring us into the digital age, but only when it works.
and for half of the UK it doesn’t.And it won’t on bonded copper either.
chris

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