Comments on: Getting to grips with the post-Cold War security threat http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/ Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Casper http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8407 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:12:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8407 Well, after this weekend, what could have been a Lukewarm War, we now have a Warm War, because my bomb is bigger than yours. Security should be a homeland initiative, because there is too much infighting amongst agencies. The Security Council doesn’t seem to have achieved much lately, I am not sure what another Institute would achieve. Terrorism is easy to anticipate:- expect the most obscure and unexpected, the Day of the Floating Papers taught us that much.

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By: Hmmm http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8385 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:22:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8385 The world is a cake.

The West have the big slice. The East have a smaller slice.

The rest of the nations are smart enough to realise they want a slice of the cake, but not smart enough to realise they *are* the cake.

And the terrorists? They are the chocolate sprinkles. At worst they will get between the teeth and annoy. At best, they provide the excuse to take bigger mouthfuls.

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By: sadasivan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8363 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:30:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8363 The other side of the coin:-
The CIS and Russia were very weak after the fall of the erstwhile USSR.The USA,UK and Israel have been always aggressive,but more so after the so called,Cold War.The trio has also become the most feared terrorist(which includes bio- and nuke-) with false flags and what not.

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By: brian http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8361 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:56:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8361 Between politicians and corporate giants.
I don’t know where you came up with ‘small investors’, that wasn’t part of the conversation.

You’ve made your point that you’re anti-chavez despite his enormous popularity.
It’s important to recognize the difference between reporting and a demonizing which is routine practice when dealing with enemies of ‘the state’ and easily distinguishable when information is available that contradicts the standard line which is not being published.

What place has an aristocrat ever had in defense of freedom of speech and transparency?
Have you ever heard the rich standing up corporate control of the state??

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By: krishnamurthi ramachandran http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8350 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:55:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8350 Dear author,
Very interesting and very expanded writings from you.
In my life, I have not dreamed or imagined even iota level, The Berlin Wall will be dismantled and will be opened to Germans.
But that man made history was buried.
Generally viewing on this great real occasions, freedom lovers, open minded thinkers, world leaders, and champions for freedom and for free trades are rejoicing and talking of this new freedom running by East Germans to West Germans for their intellectual chatting only.
Now, all are Germans, Some economic and social changes, prosperities on many fields are in.
Because of ex and new cold war between super nations with some self own interests, dominations towards weaker nations, weaker minds had created some cries, economic and social disparities had happened.
What the world bodies had done to some monopoly political systems rulers till to this hour.
Strong man with self ,controlled publicities will hold the keys of power and influences to others are common in any history.
Now, the time has come to bury their differences and work, build for greater green pastures to entire human kind.
We are all citizens of this world.
Unity in Diversity should be the slogan for every body!s day today living and for continuous growth in all vital fields for restoring real democracy,real economic and social assistance to needy nations, to needy persons are hours of today.
No new schools or no new philosophy are needed to this juncture.
We have very solid experiences of the past and present economic, agriculture, education, productivity, banking, bookish and practical knowledges are enormous.
Now a days, younger generations wants good education, good income, freedom from the unknown and freedom from the known and good standard of living by carrot and stick policies are acceptable.
Who creates,allows Fascism,racial misgivings, wrong branding, war crimes, war creation phobias etc.,etc.,
If we correct,our past and present mistakes, then , we will be in heaven,and experience peace ,co-existence,love,togetherness and all good qualities,good thoughts ,tolerance are be enjoyable with pleasant memories and pleasure thoughts from this world.
Need not to imagine what Heaven! will be.

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By: Paul Rosa http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8349 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:26:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8349 Brian – What can’t you see the difference between? The small investor and the corporate giants?

If you own a plot of land or a small business, have an IRA or even a house. You are a small investor.

If that makes one an aristocrat you are sounding very like a sans Coulotte.

Somehow I suspect Robespierre is trotting along right behind you.

Are you hoping for a total leveling of the masses ala Mao?

To answer an earlier comment – I think men like Chavez, Mugabe, and the dear leader know how to sing a populist song but really want power and can’t separate their own sense of personal self importance from the damage they cause. Mugabe is an old man who is afraid to step down because he probably fears he will be killed when he is back in the “masses” again. Or if he does, he fears the loss of power and prestige will kill him because he has grown to love the position and can no longer live without it. Dear leader is a dynast and autocrat who only knows how to sing the socialist tune. The voters of Venezuela were suspicious of Chavez attempt to lengthen his terms. And the man doesn’t have the slightest appreciation of the art of diplomacy. How much they may despise each other those men and women in the UN have to be able to talk to one anther without throwing the furniture around.

I’m quite sure our own corporate heads are no less susceptible to the thrill of big money and big influence – but I lost several better attempts at writing this reply.

There is a legitimate need for police forces in the world. The trouble with Mr. Reid’s article is – it is so damned obscure. What is he proposing that isn’t there already?

Is his concern external threats – internal threats – or perhaps both?

If there is no middle money – that leaves only the mega wealthy and the destitute or those enslaved to their mortgages and personal debt.

But I whole hearted agree with you that infotainment is somehow neither entertainment nor information. But that is what most people suck up. But if it comes to a choice between a person who thinks the National Enquirer is good reading or a person who can read whole libraries with comprehension and balance, I (who am not wealthy enough to join even the bigger middle shots), will listen to the aristocrat, as long as he knows his place and is not determined to enslave me.

Fascist states don’t just grow from the top down. They grow because the great majority or people are selfish, domineering and want simple and easy answers to everything. Strong men are always popular because they look like they can “get things done” and know how to kill off their smarter critics. And , oh my, how it seems the ladies love them.

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By: brian http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8341 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:48:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8341 Personally I see no difference between the two, they are all like minded aristocrats who move between the two sectors making it almost impossible to distinguish a line between the two. Not to mention that political parties themselves are funded and staffed by the corporate giants.

It cannot be understated how important control of the undemocratic corporate news media is to maintaining this monopoly over our political process.
If we were to liberate news from entertainment media and make it democratic it would be the end of this stranglehold over democracy.

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By: Paul Rosa http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8340 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:25:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8340 To Peter – The present is looking very like the distant past. Octavian came to power as the first bona fide Roman Emperor because the Senate was comprised of men who owned everything – or nearly everything. Roman society was basically two tiered. A small number or knights and senators and a great mass of slaves and freemen totally dependent on the upper orders.

An empire is death to democratic traditions.

But the modern world moves so fast it may not take us two or three hundred years to watch the annihilation of all the senatorial class – several times in the history of those people – and we can head straight to , pass Constantine and Diocletian, do not collect the next stimulus check and head straight to the dark ages.

Caligula is supposed to have said – “if only Rome had a single neck, I could cut off it’s head” or words to that effect. The Senate made it easy for him. They provided him theirs. By the end of the reign of Nero – none of the great houses who supported Augustus were in existence.

But modern fascism seems to have read it’s history books. Hitler’s regime had read the ancients and the more recent European history. They knew how a modern state can be terrorized into submission to the degree that most of the little people didn’t see what was going on around them.

My Father – a world War II vet – recalls that while in college he was exposed to some of the global thinking of the Third Reich. They thought of Eurasia as the center of the planet and the North and South American continents as the fringe. In terms of population – we still are.

It makes me wonder what might have been on the reading lists of Osama and Company – or by now – companies?

But it is obvious that none of our comments think Mr. Reid is sincere and we are all suspicious of who he expects to work for. Is his concern for our protection democratic at all? Business are not usually democracies and the way Congress drags its heals over share holder rights, financial regulation and the protection of the small investor, suggests that they have nothing but contempt for them.

If this comment does not appear – I’ll know the answer.

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By: Peter H http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8335 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:01:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8335 Yes, it’s interesting to try to keep up with who’s who and who owns what, although I’ve just about given up having seen just about every company of any size in the industry I’ve worked in since leaving school hoovered up by a handful of “majors” over the last couple of decades, especially since about 1997+-.
It’s easy to see how politicians could be led to believe that they only need to service this increasingly decreasing number of players.

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By: brian http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/11/06/getting-to-grips-with-the-post-cold-war-security-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-8333 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:34:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/?p=4156#comment-8333 Probably also worth mentioning that Reuters itself is owned by the ‘3rd Baron of Fleet’, British Lord and richest man in Canada, 31st richest in the world.

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