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Hitchens was an atheist who believed
By James Ledbetter The opinions expressed are his own.
It seems entirely possible that Christopher Hitchens will be primarily remembered in America for his public atheism. I suspect Hitchens himself was surprised at how wildly popular God Is Not Great became, giving much-needed voice and ammunition to thousands of godless heathens in the land of the drive-through church.
Yet it's an inadequate way to remember the man, and not because Hitchens did little more in that book than to lay some tracing paper on the Enlightenment's best thinkers and draw giddily (though with acidic and often very funny ink), or because—this is not an exaggeration—the American public regards atheists on about the same level as rapists.
The problem is that splitting the atheism away from the body of Hitchens's work debases it into a kind of rascally parlor trick—"Uncle Christopher, say the mean thing about Mother Teresa again!"—and distracts from the thorny paradox at the heart of Hitchens's thinking. Which is: While certainly an enemy of superstition and an eager chronicler of the sins and idiocies of the world's religions, Hitchens was actually a lifelong believer, if strictly in man-made gods. It is impossible to contemplate his prodigious and passionate writing without recognizing that it was always animated by crusades, holy men, and devils.
Indeed, the Hitchens universe was long populated by notions of absolute good and evil, stretching back to his days as a student Trotskyite. This tendency was tempered by a love of literature and the cocoon of irony that writers wrap around themselves. But Hitchens himself spoke of the struggle between the literal and ironic minds, and it is an aptly Hitchensian contradiction that the episode, I think, that created his own brand of fundamentalist was in defense of the ironic mind—in 1989, when the Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa on Salman Rushdie for the supposed blasphemy of The Satanic Verses.
The importance of the Rushdie saga on Hitchens's thinking cannot be overstated. "I felt at once that here was something that completely committed me," he wrote in his splendid memoir, Hitch-22. "It was, if I can phrase it like this, a matter of everything I hated versus everything I loved." This is of course a functional definition of evil and good. And there were obviously implications for the future, once Hitchens learned that among the Western left, it is entirely possible for well-meaning people, in the name of multicultural "understanding" or "tolerance" of non-Western societies, to overlook and even excuse atrocities and barbarism that would never be acceptable if perpetrated, say, by the Republican Party and its allies.
Few today would find fault with Hitchens's stance or actions on behalf of Rushdie. But he began to apply the moral purity he derived from it to situations where the good-versus-evil ledger was not so neatly visible. From the mid- to late-'90s on, when the books on Mother Teresa, Bill Clinton, and Henry Kissinger were published, the absolutism had pretty much taken over his work.
from The Great Debate:
The 9/11 generation
By David Rohde The opinions expressed are his own.
In a speech last week at the American Legion convention in Minneapolis, President Obama rightly hailed what he called “the 9/11 generation,” the five million Americans who served in the military over the last decade.
“They’re a generation of innovators,” he declared. “And they’ve changed the way America fights and wins at wars.”
The following day, at a ceremony marking his retirement from the military, Gen. David Petraeus affirmed Tom Brokaw’s similar praise as the two men toured Iraq in 2003.
“He shouted to me over the noise of a helicopter before heading back to Baghdad: ‘Surely, General, this is America’s new greatest generation'," Petraeus recalled. “I agreed with him then, and I agree with him now.”
I agree as well. There is a kernel of truth – and hope – in both statements. There is a 9/11 generation, one that extends beyond the valiant military members both men correctly hailed. Instead, it includes all Americans who experienced the attacks and responded to them over the last decade.
Its members include the tens of thousands of civilians who worked as diplomats, aid workers and contractors in Afghanistan and Iraq; the millions of police, firemen and teachers who stabilized American society in the fall of 2001 and subsequent years; and the tens of millions of innovative businesspeople and workers who brought the American economy roaring back after the attacks.
“5 million of who went to war, millions more who served in other significant ways); and a generation of children whose lives have been imprinted by events they can’t yet begin to fathom.”
As much as I sympathetic with the trauma that kid suffered – I am also aware that both he and his father and every other person serving in the military is a volunteer. I hated the draft but g had a deferment. But the draft had the benefit of making sure the war was not put on self-serving, self-perpetuating and automatic status.
A stagnant economy that seems determined to widen the gap between rich and poor is also ideal for keeping an all-volunteer army staffed. The country is becoming as fascist as the Roman Empire and can marginalize anyone not in uniform and guarantee that only those with military service ever have access to ever rarer employment prospects and all in the name of a war that never has to end. It is too easy to invent a terrorist threat.
And you exploit a generation of children that may have been too young to actually know much of what went on at the time. The memorials are making a kind of state religion with holy icons, sacred pilgrimage sites and all the trappings of a popular religion devoid of any spiritual significance. And that popular religion can be abused as easily – even more easily – but all the con men and opportunists that tend to dominate state support religious establishments.
The next generation – the 9/11 generation as the writer calls them – is not likely to enter a brave new world, but one that is very controlled by some very powerful grandees that are noble (and unaccountable) in all but title. And America has had homegrown aristocrats before.
These new aristocrats will not be nearly as accountable for the influence as the old world equivalent. They will never put their own skins or children on the line and will expect their less fortunate, less educated and less intelligent to do the fighting and dying for them. And they will be able to create all the propaganda, home grown patriotic pseudo-religious sentiment they like and broadcast it anywhere they like.
from Reuters Investigates:
How Mendax made WikiLeaks a sensation
By Mark Hosenball
On Tuesday, Julian Assange, the controversial Australian-born founder and frontman of the WikiLeaks website is scheduled to appear in a London courtroom for the latest hearing on a request by Swedish authorities that he be extradited to Sweden for questioning in a sexual misconduct investigation.
Assange has denied any wrongdoing in Sweden, and some of his supporters have dropped dark hints that the Swedish investigation could be part of some sinister conspiracy by the CIA or other WikiLeaks enemies to shut down both Assange and the website, which has lately roiled the world of international diplomacy by disclosing a cache of secret U.S. diplomatic cables.
Swedish prosecutors and the lawyer for two women who complained to the authorities about Assange's behavior deny the sex investigation has anything to do with spy plots or politics. People who know the mercurial and sometimes imperious Assange say that even on best behavior, he can be a difficult person to deal with.
In this special report last week, we took you behind the Swedish investigation into the sex allegations against Assange, and explained how Assange himself might have avoided any investigation if he had been more accessible to two women who were anxious that he undergo medical tests which he apparently wanted to avoid.
In this new special report, "Julian Assange versus the world," we look into the strange and colorful background that helped to shape Assange's intellect and character. Also we report on his increasingly fractious dealings with both collaborators and journalists who helped him build WikiLeaks into a worldwide brand-name.
Some original source material might be of additional interest to readers who find Assange fascinating, compelling or repellent. One seminal article on the 39-year old former hacker and self-proclaimed "scientific journalist" is this profile, which the New Yorker magazine published shortly before the reputations of Assange and WikiLeaks became an international sensation.
from The Great Debate:
The U.S. war in Iraq is over. Who won?
The end of America's combat mission, after seven and a half costly years, has raised questions that will provide fodder for argument for a long time to come: Was it worth it? And who, if anyone, won?
It's too early to answer the first question, according to U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a man of sober judgment. "It really requires a historian's perspective in terms of what happens here in the long run ... How it all weighs in the balance over time remains to be seen."
For a sizeable group of Middle East experts, the second question is easier to answer than the first. "So, who won the war in Iraq? Iran," says the headline over an analysis by scholar Mohammed Bazzi for the Council on Foreign relations, a New York-based think-tank. His argument: "The U.S. ousted Tehran's sworn enemy, Saddam Hussein, from power. Then Washington helped install a Shi'ite government for the first time in Iraq's modern history.
"As U.S. troops became mired in fighting an insurgency and containing a civil war, Iran extended its influence over all of Iraq's Shi'ite factions." As a consequence, U.S. influence has been waning, Iran's has been rising, and there are predictions that Iran will fill the vacuum created by the drawdown of U.S. troops to 50,000 who will "advise and assist" the Iraqis.
When President Barack Obama announced the completion of the drawdown in a somber speech on August 31, he made no reference to Iran - a curious omission - but said that "in an age without surrender ceremonies, we must earn victory through the success of our partners." In the case of Iraq, only optimists find it easy to see shining success.
Six months after national elections, there is still no Iraqi government, with Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds unable to agree on how to share power and, as importantly, the country's enormous oil wealth. A squabbling, deadlocked parliament is not much to show for more than 4,000 American, up to 100,000 Iraqi deaths and $1 trillion in war spending.
Obama's predecessor, George W. Bush, and the neoconservative war hawks who agitated for an attack on Iraq, predicted that the country would become a model of democracy that would inspire the rest of the Arab world, largely run by autocratic regimes, to follow suit. That proved a pipedream. Instead, in the words of Wathiq al-Hashemi, a political analyst in Baghdad, Iraq has become a theatre for settling foreign disputes.
Israel won the war. Iran came in second. The USA elite won trillions and the American people lost badly.
How much damage will the BP oil spill cause?
-Kees Willemse is professor of offshore engineering at Delft University. The opinions expressed are his own.-
Last month’s explosion at the Deepwater Horizon rig continues to result in the leakage of an estimated 200,000 gallons (910,000 litres) of oil into the Gulf of Mexico each day.
According to U.S. President Barack Obama, “we are dealing with a massive and potentially unprecedented environmental disaster”.
While the leak is extremely serious, and Obama’s words may ultimately ring true, the leak is (as yet) not one of the top 50 biggest oil spillages from either oil rigs or tankers in historical perspective:
• Some 7-10,000 tonnes of oil are so far estimated to have leaked into the Gulf of Mexico from Deepwater Horizon. • The Exxon Valdez leaked some 36,000 tonnes of crude oil on the shores of Alaska. • The largest ever off-shore leakage of oil occurred in 1979 in the Ixtoc-1 spillage when an estimated 476,000 tonnes of oil polluted the Gulf of Mexico (Bay of Campeche). • The biggest ever on-shore spillage occurred in the aftermath of the 1991 Iraq War when an estimated 1.4 to 1.5 million tonnes was released in Kuwait by Iraqi military forces.
Most at risk from the Deepwater Horizon spill are the coastlines of Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana, including the wetlands near New Orleans where millions of migratory birds are currently nesting, and fish spawning.
The oil spill could also be catastrophic for the Gulf Coast’s substantial seafood industry, including oysters and shrimp.
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from UK News:
Will the Chilcot Iraq inquiry achieve anything?
Few investigations can have begun with lower expectations than the Chilcot inquiry into Britain's involvement in the Iraq war.
Critics have been withering:
-- the Chairman Sir John Chilcot, a former Whitehall mandarin, has strong links to the establishment and is unlikely to rock the boat, they say.
-- there are no senior legal figures on the panel capable of addressing the key issue of whether the invasion of Iraq was legal. None of the panel members has spoken out against the war.
-- there is no political pressure for a radical result because the Tories voted for the invasion and the last thing they want is to let the inquiry rock the boat ahead of their expected general election victory in the Summer.
-- the scope of the inquiry is too broad, possibly leading to insufficient detailed inquiries into complex issues.
But Chilcot has denied that his report will be a whitewash, there is clearly a widespread public desire to have all the lingering questions answered and the government has granted immunity from disciplinary action to serving officials and military personnel giving evidence to encourage them to give frank evidence.
from UK News:
Is Blair the man for the EU job?
Once he was regarded as an obvious front-runner for the job of EU president, then it was pointed out that it was unlikely anyone would be chosen from a country that is not in the eurozone, not in the Schengen border-free area and which has an exemption to the bloc's charter of fundamental rights.
Ah, but if you don't choose someone with proven political clout to fight Europe's corner, a G2 of China and the United States will have things all their own way soon, declared Foreign Secretary David Miliband over the weekend.
You need someone with a high profile who will stop the traffic in world capitals, he added.
Oh no, we don't, several EU countries say. We want someone with a lower profile who will be better able to secure consensus among members states than Tony Blair.
Other detrators say they don't want Blair because he backed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Conservatives in Britain have said that appointing him would be viewed by an incoming Tory government as a virtual act of war and that he runs the risk of being almost immediately thrust into controversy as the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war begins.
The actual decision is likely to be made at a summit next month. Meanwhile Blair himself seems to be standing on the sidelines, so much so that some of his supporters are urging him to launch a more dynamic campaign.
Do you believe Blair's the man for the job?
As if we’re going to get to vote on the issue.
What happened to the referendum we were promised on the European Union Treaty?
Who decides who gets these posts anyway?
If you want to change anything, don’t vote for a mainstream party at the next election, they’re all in it together.
Past and present: a correspondent in Iraq
-Tim Cocks is a Reuters correspondent in Iraq.-
This month we reported that the number of civilians dying violent deaths in Iraq had hit a fresh low since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion — about 125 for September.
Sounds like a lot, but for a country that only two years ago was seeing dozens of bodies pile up in the streets each day from tit-for-tat sectarian killing, it was definitely progress.
And as I prepare to end my assignment in Iraq this week, I need no argument from numbers to convince me that things are better here than when I arrived in Feb. 2008.
During my first few months, militants loyal to to anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr were raising hell in Baghdad, firing mortars and rockets at the Green Zone almost every hour. We could hear or feel them thud on impact, especially when they fell short, on our side of the Tigris.
A rocket hit the BBC building opposite us, causing a blast loud enough to shake our windows, although thankfully no one at the BBC was hurt by the strike.
U.S. airstrikes on Baghdad’s Sadr City slum were killing many civilians. Roadside and car bombs were erupting all over the place and the streets were largely deserted after dark.
The embedded version of Iraq’s history leaves much unsaid. Its omissions, lack of candid insight and substitution of anecdote for fact also tend to leave generations of American foreign policy to be based on derivative opinions of generally pig-ignorant hecklers with no concept of what has been destroyed there, how vastly and at what cost.If you had seen Iraq in the 1970s, you would understand the differences brought about there by American intervention as universally deleterious.And, frankly, unforgivable.
from The Great Debate:
Fake news gets real
Thomas Mucha is the managing editor in charge of correspondents for GlobalPost, where this article first appeared. The views expressed are his own. --
It’s been a fascinating few weeks for global news — the real kind, of course — but also for the fake stuff.
I’m referring to "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report," which sent correspondents and producers to locales where comedy shows don't normally operate: Iran and Iraq. Along the way, these two Comedy Central commercial properties cooked up plenty of laughs. But they also produced some insightful — and certainly entertaining — coverage of these two complex and important global stories.
If Wolf Blitzer isn’t quaking in his beard, he should be.
These foreign forays produced powerful storytelling that illustrates how intelligence and humor, when mixed with a little ground truth, can add depth to very serious matters. It also demonstrates how fake news is, indisputably, a power on the global media stage. As an added bonus it was yet another funny and scathing attack on the pompous earnestness that typifies much of the mainstream media: You know you're in trouble if you can be so brutally, and effortlessly, parodied.
Let's start with Iran, where The Daily Show began with a simple idea, but then got much more than it was expecting.
I’m don’t think it’s accurate to call what these two shows do “fake news”. They take actual events and highlight aspects of it for humor and/or to point out the stupidity of the people involved. That’s not being fake nor is it falsifying the “newsworthy” event.
Is Iraq stable enough to cope without U.S. troops?
-Tim Cocks is a Reuters correspondent based in Baghdad.-
For the U.S. military, it’s the million dollar question — or rather the $687 billion question, according to a recent estimate of the Iraq war’s total cost. Is Iraq now stable enough for them to take a permanent back seat?
The short answer is no one knows. The only way they were ever going to find out was to leave Iraq’s own forces to it and hope the whole thing doesn’t come tumbling down. They started doing that on Tuesday when they pulled out of Iraqi cities.
It’s been an encouraging start. A big bomb in Kirkuk cast a shadow over Iraq’s celebrations of its new-found sovereignty, but since then things have been relatively quiet. Militants might try to take advantage by stepping up attacks, but for the moment they seem content with celebrating a “victory” over the occupation — and setting off the odd bomb, of course.
The United States’ coalition partners have for the most part long since departed. British forces handed over southern Iraq to the Americans in April, but since 2007 their 4,000 odd troops left had been largely confined to Basra airport anyway.
And one thing the crystal ball gazers have learned about Iraq’s hugely complicated, many-sided conflict is that the past is rarely a reliable guide to the future.
When optimists thought Iraq was poised to enjoy democracy after the fall of Saddam, it spiralled into years of bloody insurgency and sectarian killing. Later, just when it seemed all hope was lost and Iraq would have to be partitioned, things starting getting dramatically better.
No, there will be a struggle for power as soon as the Us leaves the country. Iraq is too divided, and there are too many unsolved cultural, polital and religious issues for Iraq to become a peaceful and safe place to live.










(quote) That this prediction did not come true does not mean that Hitchens was wrong, exactly.
look, read hitchen’s quote immediately after your sentence – it is pure hitchenesque = shoddy, sprawling, inebriated, boring shite
“would make even the most limited impression on the heavily armored certainties” – wot the? hitchens desperately trying to be articulate
The Lice in Wunderland, looking through the whisky glass