Comments on: In U.S. elections, fear of Muslims http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: louis vuitton http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-15483 Wed, 27 May 2009 17:13:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-15483 there s no point being afraid of muslims, they are part of the society too..

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By: wow power leveling http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-8104 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:26:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-8104 A burden of one’s choice is not felt

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By: Real American http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-230 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:10:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-230 Replace the words:

Replace “Jew” with “Muslim”

Replace “Reichstag Fire” with “9/11″

Replace “Reichstag Fire Decree” with “The Patriot Act”

Replace “Auschwitz” with “Guantanamo”

Replace “Insurgent” with “Resistance”

Replace “Facism” with “Corporatism”

Replace “Nazi” with “Republican”

Replace “Bush” with “Hitler”

Replace “McCain with “McBush”

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By: Okie http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-201 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:48:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-201 The people who should fear Muslims are other Muslims. Al Qaeda and other Muslims extremists have killed tens of thousands of Muslims in Iraq.

In 2005 Human Rights Watch issued a report on deaths in Iraq. I have taken the word ‘victims’ from the report and replaced it with the more accurate word,’Muslims\':

Attacks in 2003

August 7 – A truck bomb outside the Jordanian embassy in Baghdad kills sixteen Muslims and injures more than fifty.

August 19 – A suicide bomber in a truck demolishes U.N. headquarters in Baghdad, killing twenty-two people, including U.N. Special Representative to the Secretary-General Sergio Vieira de Mello, and wounding more than 150 Muslims.

August 29 – Car bomb kills at least eight-three Muslims at the Imam Ali mosque in Najaf, including Shi`a Muslim leader Ayatollah Muhammad Baqir al-Hakim.

October 27 – A truck bomb explodes outside the headquarters of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in Baghdad, killing twelve. Bombs at three police stations in the city kill at least twenty-three more Muslims.

Attacks in 2004

January 18 – Suicide car bomber kills at least twenty-five Muslims, mostly Iraqi civilians, at entrance to the main U.S. headquarters in Baghdad.

February 10- Suicide car bomb explodes in a police station in al-Iskandariyya south of Baghdad, killing fifty-three Muslims.

February 11 – Suicide car bomb explodes outside an Iraqi army recruitment center in Baghdad, killing up to forty-seven Muslims and wounding fifty.

March 2 – More than 181 Muslims are killed and 573 are wounded when multiple blasts erupt in Baghdad and Karbala while Shi`a pilgrims are observing `Ashura’, the holiest day of the Shi`a calendar.

April 20 – Insurgents fire twelve mortar rounds into Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad. According to U.S. military officials, the attacks kill twenty-two Muslim prisoners and wound ninety-two.

April 21 – Car bombs outside three Iraqi police stations and a police academy in Basra kill sixty-eight Muslims, including sixteen children, and wound 200. Nine of the sixty-eight victims were police.

April 24 – Fourteen Iraqi Muslims are killed when insurgents fire mortars and rockets into a crowded market in Baghdad’s Sadr City.

April 24 – A roadside bomb in al-Iskandariyya kills fourteen Muslims traveling to Baghdad on a bus.

June 17 – A car bomb kills thirty-five Muslims and wounds more than 100 outside an army recruiting station in Baghdad.

June 25 – A wave of attacks by insurgents in six cities kills more than 100 Muslims and wounds more than 300. In Mosul, sixty-two Muslims die and 220 are injured from car bombs at the police academy, two police stations and a hospital, although it is not clear how many of the victims were civilians.

July 14 – A suicide car bomber blows himself up at the gates of the U.S.-fortified Green Zone, killing at least ten Iraqi Muslims and injuring dozens.

July 28 – A suicide car bomb kills sixty-eight Muslims and wounds fifty-six in Ba`quba intended for men lined up outside a police recruiting center.

August 1 – Coordinated car bomb attacks on five churches, four in Baghdad and one in Mosul, kill eleven Muslims and wound more than forty.

August 26 – A mortar attack on a mosque in Kufa kills twenty-seven Muslims and wounds sixty-three.

August 27 – Unidentified gunmen fire into a group walking on the main road from Kufa to Najaf, killing fifteen Muslims.

September 14 – A car bomb near a police station in Baghdad kills at least forty-seven Muslims and wounds 114 in a nearby market. Recruits were lining up out the station to sign up for the police.

September 30 – Insurgents detonate three car bombs in Baghdad’s Hay al-‘Amel neighborhood as U.S. soldiers hand out candy for the opening of a renovated water pumping station, killing forty-one Muslims, thirty-four of them children.

October 10 – A suicide car bomb near the Oil Ministry in Baghdad killed an estimated ten Muslims.

October 15 – A suicide bomber in a car explodes near a police station in Baghdad, killing ten Muslims, including a family of four.

October 23 – Insurgents capture and execute forty-six Muslims from the Iraqi armed forces and three drivers taking them home for the weekend on leave.

October 31 – A rocket slams into a hotel in Tikrit, killing fifteen Muslims and wounding eight.

November 11 – A car bomb explodes just after a U.S. patrol passes, killing seventeen Iraqi Muslims and wounding thirty.

December 3 – A car bomb kills at least fourteen Muslims outside a Shi`a mosque in Baghdad and heavily damages the mosque.

December 16 – An explosion outside a Shi`a shrine in Karbala kills ten Muslims and wounds forty-one, including Grand Ayatollah `Ali al-Sistani’s representative in the holy city.

December 19 – A suicide car bomb in Najaf, 300 yards from the Imam Ali shrine kills and wounds more than 120 Muslims. On the same day, a car bomb explodes at Karbala’s bus station, killing fourteen Muslims and injuring at least forty.

December 27 – A suicide car bomber kills thirteen Muslims outside the offices of SCIRI, one of the main Shi`a Muslim political parties, in Baghdad.

December 28 – Twenty-eight Muslims are killed in an explosion that flattens several houses in Baghdad, apparently when a police unit was lured into a trap laid by exremists.

Attacks in 2005 (through mid-September)

January 19 – A suicide car bomb explodes near a police station in Baghdad’s Karrada neighborhood, killing an estimated eleven Muslims.

January 21 – A suicide car bomb blows up outside a Shi`a mosque in Baghdad killing fourteen Muslims and wounding forty

January 30 – Insurgents execute at least nine suicide bombings on Iraq’s election day, killing at least thirty-five Muslims.

February 7 – Suicide bombers kill at least twenty-seven Muslims in two Iraqi cities; outside a Ba`quba police station and a Mosul hospital.

February 7 – A suicide car bomb kills fifteen Muslims and wounds seventeen outside the main police headquarters in Ba`quba.

February 8 – A suicide bomber killed twenty-one Muslims waiting to sign up for the Iraqi police and wounded twenty-seven in Baghdad.

February 11 – A car bomb kills at least twelve Muslims and wounds forty outside a Shi`a mosque in Balad Ruz, 45 miles northeast of Baghdad.

February 11 – Masked gunmen kill at least ten Muslims at a bakery in a Shi`a area of Baghdad. It remains unclear if the attack was by insurgents or the result of a tribal dispute.

February 12 – A suicide car bomber kills seventeen Muslims outside a hospital south of Baghdad.

February 18 – A suicide bomber kills fifteen and wounds twenty-four as Shi`a Muslims celebrate the religious festival of `Ashura’in a procession to al-Kadhimiyya mosque in southern Baghdad.

February 28 – A suicide car bomb attack on a crowd of mostly Shi`a police and army recruits in al-Hilla kills 125 Muslims and wounds about 130. Most of the dead were police and army recruits, but civilians from the market across the street were also killed.

March 10 – A suicide bomber strikes a Shi`a mosque during a funeral in Mosul, killing at least forty-seven Muslims and wounding more than 100.

April 20 – Nineteen Muslims are found executed in a stadium in Haditha.

April 24 – Two bombs kill fifteen Muslims and wound fifty-seven near the Shi`a Ahl al-Bayt mosque in Baghdad.

May 1 – A car bomb kills at least twenty-five and wounds more than fifty Muslims at the funeral of Sayyid Talib Sayyid Wahhab, an official of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, in Tal Afar.

May 4 – A suicide bomber kills forty-six Muslims and wounds about 100 as they are waiting to sign up for the police in Arbil.

May 5 – A suicide bomber blew himself up outside an army recruitment center in Baghdad, killing thirteen Muslims and wounding fifteen.

May 6 – A suicide car bomber kills fifty-eight Muslims and wounds 44 more at a vegetable market in the mostly Shi`a town of Suwayra.

May 11 – A suicide bomber kills at least thirty-one Muslims and wounds more than sixty-six in Tikrit.

May 11 – A suicide bomber kills thirty-two Muslims and wounds more than forty outside a police and army recruitment center in Hawija.

May 15 – Police find the bodies of twelve Muslim men killed execution-style in northeastern Baghdad, thirteen bodies in eastern Baghdad, and eleven more near al-Iskandariyya.

May 23 – Two suicide car bombs kill fifteen Muslims outside the home of Hasan Bagdash, a Turkoman politician, in Tal Afar. Bagdash survived the attack.

May 23 – A suicide car bomber kills at least ten Muslims and wounds thirty outside a Shi`a mosque in al-Mahmudiyya.

May 23 – A car bomb kills eleven Muslims and wounds more than 110 outside a Baghdad restaurant popular with the police.

June 2 – An explosion at a restaurant in Tuz Khormatu kills twelve Muslims.

June 3 – A suicide bomber kills ten Muslims and wounds ten more at a home in Sa`ud, a remote village near Balad.

June 7 – Three explosions in and around Hawija kill thirty-four Muslims; the deadliest kills ten people at a checkpoint on the outskirts of town.

June 11 – Gunmen open fire on a minibus in Diyara, killing eleven Muslim construction workers.

June 14 – A suicide bomber kills twenty-three Muslims outside a bank in Kirkuk, among them some pensioners.

June 19 – A suicide bomber detonates his charges in a popular Baghdad restaurant during lunchtime, killing twenty-three Muslims.

June 20 – A suicide bomber kills fifteen traffic police officers and wounds 100 Muslims in Arbil.

July 2 – A suicide bomber with explosives hidden beneath his clothing targets a police recruitment center in Baghdad, killing sixteen Muslims and wounding twenty-two.

July 10 – An attacker detonates an explosive vest outside a Baghdad army recruitment center, killing twenty-five Muslims and wounding forty-seven.

July 13 – A suicide car bomb explodes next to U.S. troops handing out candy and toys to children, killing thirty-two Muslim children and one U.S. soldier.

July 16 – A suicide car bomber detonates his explosives underneath a propane tanker that insurgents had hijacked and parked near a Shi`a mosque south of Baghdad. At least ninety-eight Muslims die and 156 are wounded.

July 24 – A suicide car bomber kills twenty-five Muslims and wounds thirty-three others near al-Rashad police station in Baghdad. Iraqi police are among the casualties but most of the victims are civilians.

July 29 – At least forty-eight Muslims are killed and fifty-eight wounded in a suicide bomb attack on an army recruitment center in the northern town of Rabi`a.

August 17 – Three car bombs near the Nadha bus station in Baghdad and at the nearby al-Kindi Hospital kill up to forty-three Muslims.

September 14-15 – More than one dozen car bombs and suicide bomb attacks in Shi`a neighborhoods of Baghdad killed nearly 200 Muslims.

http://hrw.org/reports/2005/iraq1005/17. htm

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By: Lee http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-169 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:05:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-169 Thomas Jefferson: if “impeccable” American credentials include owning slaves, then Jefferson was indeed “impeccable”, and all the bigots and racists in fact are, as they will tell you, the “real” Americans in the place. Never mind that the “real” Americans took the place away from the natives by dint of force, both military and social, and herded them onto the worst lands that no one else wanted. And how did all those black people get to what would become the US, anyway? Even with the victors writing the history, I don’t remember hearing anything about ships full of refugees…just miserable ships of slavers who went to another continent and took people away from their homes and families by force.

As pointed out, some of the worst crimes against humanity, some of the worst terrorist activity, has taken place by white Christians. Hitler, McVeigh, the KKK…

Are we ever going to prove that as a race we can learn anything? Racism, that fear of the Other, of people Not Like You and Me, war itself…it’s all been with us from the beginning, but does that mean it has to be with us at the end?

Don’t blindly follow people who try to call to that fear inside you, that need we all have to feel more superior to someone else. When you’re a better person because you support a different sports team from someone else, you should realize you’re grasping at straws: it’s not much different when you feel you’re a better person because you support a different religion, or even a different church from that OTHER church that uses a different prayer book.

If someone is trying to get you to live your life based on your fears or your need to be superior, don’t follow where they lead. That is the reaction of the superior person.

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By: luke weyland http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-118 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:42:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-118 I would encourage all the readers to go to an inter-faith dialogue. I used go to lots of them when I was a Baha’i.

People share their holy prayers and readings. As they someone spoke I would think, – hey my religion says a similar thing this way!

For instance, look at the 99 ways that the Qu’ran refers to the Divine. The most compassionate, the merciful, the forgiving, the just, the One… et cetera. These same terms are found in the Bible too! Look at Islam’s (and Baha’is) prophets, these include Adam, Moses, Solomon and Jesus.

My dad was raised a Jew. Three of his grandparents perished in the Holocaust. Dad is well aware of countless atrocities previously committed over the centuries, those committed by some who misused the name of Christ against the Jewish people. Yet he has been, and still is, happily married to my devoutly Catholic mum for fifty-six years. He allowed my mum to bring up the five kids as Catholic and attend Catholic schools.

I challenge every reader, to find out what other faiths think. attend an interfaith prayer meeting, discussion group, visit a shrine, temple, church, synagogue or mosque.

What you may discover is that other mob don’t actually have horns from their foreheads, or wear a red and black cape after all. Perhaps you will discover, as I did the paradox of faith that – more one learns about other people and their faiths, the closer one comes to truly understanding your own.

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By: Flounder http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-94 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:32:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-94 Timothy James McVeigh – Catholic

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By: Timothy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-81 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:23:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-81 I’m surprised at those who are pointing the fingers at what Muslims do. Plenty of evidence has shown that 9/11 was orchestrated from the get go by the US government and wasn’t the doing of Muslims. Bin Laden even denied it was his doing when it first occured and he takes credit for all his actions. Do people forget what the US has done to Muslims around the world? Do you think the hatred that stems from Muslims is for no reason? The numerous civilian kilings of women and children in Iraq? The rape of young women in Iraq by American Soldiers? who don’t even spend anytime in jail but just get discharged? The thousands of Palestinian kids and women killed over the years, and the US funding to Israel to continue the ongoing massacre? Do people just look at what Muslims do when they retaliate, but not what caused this hatred to begin with? Palestinians were kicked out of their homes and are invaded, but people forget about that.. They believe the land originally belonged to the Israelis. And even with that the vast majority of Muslims still do not support suicide bombings or killing Israeli civilians or any civilian as a matter of fact.

How many civilians has the US killed in Afghanistan, Pakistan, among other countries cause they “suspected” the area was housing terrorists?

Islam means Peace, it’s built on Peace, the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful. The hatred and the terrorism currently occuring is the result of a continued foreign policy agenda made by the US. Just as the US caused the progaganda to spread about the Russians in the age of Communism, now they have a new name to play with “Arabs” and “Muslims” are terrorists. A movie being orchestrated and played for one goal only: acquire the oil from the region. The leaders on their beliefs, have a grown hatred to Islam and have aimed to demolish the religion out of fear for its growth and prosperity. Christians have for long waged wars on Muslims, but everyone seems to forget all those and focus on a couple of incidents that occured recently.

Just look at the Pallin rallies, she wants people to hate and wants people to fear. Isn’t that not clear enough of tactics used to further an agenda? Even if it makes a whole religion portrayed as terrorists.

If you think about it, how can the US justify going into Muslim countries to acquire their oil resources? They have to create an excuse don’t they? And play the mind games on the ignorant, to go through with such plans. How can they keep invading Iraq, plan to invade Iran, without giving the notion to the people that “Those countries and the people are evil, they pose a risk to your society and freedom”

I thought the Plan to go to Iraq is due weapons of mass destruction, yet they didn’t find any but are still there, occupying the lands. Then it was to remove Sadam Hussein yet he’s gone. How come they didn’t try to go to Africa to take out the horrific leaders there? cause those African countries provided no “resource” gains to the corporations.

For those, who merely listen to the news, without finding the truth, you are in for a long life of being toyed with and fooled for corporate gains and personal benefits of a few people controlling the world. If you think those leaders really care about their people, you’re in for a joke. They care about their well being and their agendas only.

Most unfortunate is their whole plan is succeeding, backed by those ignorants around the world. There is light at the end of the tunnel though, the masses are gaining the right knowledge, and soon enough the truth will be exposed, and all intensions will be clear and the real terrorists will be exposed. Islam will never be a religion of terrorism or hatred, but one of peace and love.

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By: kiru http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-75 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:48:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-75 Monte Carlo is right. Islam is not just religion but idealogoy. It has mobilized muslim people from all over the world to fight non-muslims, principally christians.
Radical muslim led people are intensifying their fighting with non-muslims not just america but also in india and china. Some of their radical leaders want to talk over america – couldn’t wait to enter the white house as victors.

Basically all muslims i met want to see the downfall of America as a great state. Although the perception has found prominience with the Iraq war, the truth is, this feeling is deep within the community even without the issue of iraq.

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By: neil woodworth http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/23/in-us-elections-fear-of-muslims/#comment-73 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:15:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=3#comment-73 I have read the Koran, it does have within it the words that insane people can use to justify their actions. I have read a couple of bibles and they too have the same justifications. The thoughts that God will support Genocide is in both. I know not the truth of any of this, but I do know that the Muslim extremists eat, sleep, live in houses, and do not work a job that would pay for these things on their own. So they are being funded and supported by someone. Some trust or some groups, We must unfund them we must follow the money back to the source to find the truth. We must not be afraid to tell the truth of what we find and not judge harshly those who may have unwittingly contributed. We must not become the new terrorists in the world to stop them. We can do this I have faith the insane ideas will not prevail.

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