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	<title>Comments on: TARP, bonuses, dividends and Waxman&#8217;s letter</title>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-9199</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Banks were FORCED to take the capital injection from the Feds"

..er  ..you mean they were forced to take money after the executives flew down to Washington to beg for money?  Maybe I get a different news feed than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Banks were FORCED to take the capital injection from the Feds&#8221;</p>
<p>..er  ..you mean they were forced to take money after the executives flew down to Washington to beg for money?  Maybe I get a different news feed than you.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Mishan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Mishan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem started with the MORTGAGE ECONOMY and now only it is partialy that. Do you know why Mr.smart? You need to think about the whole chains of interrelated global banking system whom already have been purchasing billions of dollars of U.S."MORTGAGE ECONOMY"s so called commercial papers or bundels of pakages of home-loans then inssurance companies like AIG company Inc.guarranteed thier risks of defualts and so on. These under valued mortgage papers accumulatively sgaterred through out many domestic and international banks;as an example China and Japan hold almost $700 billion just from Freddy Mc &#38; Fane Mei.. Therefore currently, not only we have the U.S.MORTGAGE ECONOMY crisis, but also global-banking-financial-insurance crisis too.Lack of transparencey regarding the amount of all this toxic assets have created panic among the financial institutios. This counter party risks in turn created stopage in normal felow of funds. And unavialabilities of cash felow/credit or liqudity in the real market/system, in macro perspective, would be the real cause of high mortgage rate; despite the FED's repeated rate cuts. Simply we all are in a middel of an on going domino effect in a very colossal measure. So this dunting challenge takes multi-dimentions approach to include all parts of the puzzel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem started with the MORTGAGE ECONOMY and now only it is partialy that. Do you know why Mr.smart? You need to think about the whole chains of interrelated global banking system whom already have been purchasing billions of dollars of U.S.&#8221;MORTGAGE ECONOMY&#8221;s so called commercial papers or bundels of pakages of home-loans then inssurance companies like AIG company Inc.guarranteed thier risks of defualts and so on. These under valued mortgage papers accumulatively sgaterred through out many domestic and international banks;as an example China and Japan hold almost $700 billion just from Freddy Mc &amp; Fane Mei.. Therefore currently, not only we have the U.S.MORTGAGE ECONOMY crisis, but also global-banking-financial-insurance crisis too.Lack of transparencey regarding the amount of all this toxic assets have created panic among the financial institutios. This counter party risks in turn created stopage in normal felow of funds. And unavialabilities of cash felow/credit or liqudity in the real market/system, in macro perspective, would be the real cause of high mortgage rate; despite the FED&#8217;s repeated rate cuts. Simply we all are in a middel of an on going domino effect in a very colossal measure. So this dunting challenge takes multi-dimentions approach to include all parts of the puzzel!</p>
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		<title>By: John Kollar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kollar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT’S the MORTGAGE ECONOMY STUPID!  Part III
                   STIMULUS II?

     It’s the mortgage economy stupid!  It’s still the mortgage economy stupid!    MANDATE creditworthy and sensible incentivized mortgage lending by all TARP beneficiaries.   Encourage the competitive neighborhood banks with mortgage stimulus incentives to expand their mortgage activity, when the major banks sit on taxpayer TARP largesse. 

     Why is the mortgage rate so high with the huge Fed Funds rate cuts and the massive Trillion Dollar infusions of the Fed/Treasury?   Simple! Greed of the perpetrators of the credit crisis has not abated.   These greedy WS/big bank genius’ don’t get it or don’t care about the economy or anything other than their own self interest.

     WS/banks take the tens of Billion dollars of the taxpayers money, courtesy of former WS’er Paulson, to buy depressed priced good banks that provided responsible mortgages.   Lining their future pockets with a “Buy low with taxpayer low cost money and sell high later” strategy.  Shamelessly, they avoid prudent mortgage lending to responsible taxpayers.   

     Brainless, amoral greed is this “self-destructive” greed.   Take the Money and Run, Give Nothing Back.

     When the avarice of banks didn’t want to give the credit worthy fully scrutinized responsible mortgages, the Fed should have encourage the prudent banks (many of the smaller Hudson City etc.) to get much more involved, even with temporary Treasury subsidies.

Analyse the Credit Crisis
 
    Lowering the mortgage rate for the creditworthy, reduces house inventory, price deterioration and foreclosure rates, lowers all bank write downs including CDS’s the main causes of the credit crunch.

     Cure the highly infectious mortgage market!   Force medicine directed at the infection, a mortgage problem resolving stimulus, and the credit market will heal.

     Consider that a 1.5% lower mortgage rate on a $ 200,000 mortgage if totally subsidized for three years on TWO MILLION HOMES would cost/save $ 16 Billion over 3 years.    A 1.5%, 1.0%, .5% subsidized lower rate over the first 3 years would benefit THREE MILLION HOMES at $ 16 Billion.   Expanded comparable 2-4 sized mortgage stimulus variants are practical. 

     Variants should be broad based, include temporary (1-3 years as appropriate) aid to mitigate foreclosures of creditworthy and for ARM resets for creditworthy.   Select aid for jumbo and second homes.   Extra aid for the highly depressed housing markets.   The key is creditworthy.

     Consider the 2008 Economic Stimulus I cost $150 Billion and did virtually nothing.   Compare that to the obvious effects of a $30-60 Billion mortgage stimulus.

     Ten months ago, mortgage rates should have been up to 3.0% lower level with the temporary 1.5% mortgage resolving stimulus, preventing the financial crisis we now face.   The creditworthy are not ignorant and will not subsidize the banks greed of usurping the entirety of the Fed funds rate reductions for their self interests.

     It is not a great surprise that current new mortgages are down 20% when rates are almost 6.5%, when they should be and will be 5% or less without a mortgage stimulus.   The creditworthy will wait and the American economy will deteriorate further.    Thank you Paulson, Bernanke, Bair and WS and major Banks!
 
     JUST IMAGINE, how the cascade of events in mortgages if reversed over the last 10 11 months would have unfolded.

     It doesn’t take a WS genius to comprehend that if homes were more affordable from lower mortgage rates, than housing inventory would be reduced, housing prices would be less depressed and necessary bank write downs would be very much reduced and the financial crisis much less severe.

     These positive impacts of a more normal housing market would transfer to all aspects of the economy from a more positive consumer, to a vastly improved stock market.

     The mortgage stimulus would directly improve those most severely impacted, employment in housing construction, real estate, home furnishings and even WS.

     A more positive consumer would stimulate the retail, hard goods and auto industries etc, curbing job loses and adding a few more bricks in rebuilding the house of economic confidence. 

The “Year Too Late” Solution
 
    Economic Stimulus II, if enacted must contain a mortgage resolving stimulus of $ 40-60 Billion.

     We must stop giving the economy a daily dose of two aspirin and a swig of Pepto Bismol for the headache and upset stomach.   It’s an infection stupid.   While the economic symptoms ameliorate slightly, the infection is growing toward a deadly sepsis status that has pushed the patient into a coma.   Doctors Bernanke, Paulson and Bair, it’s a deadly infection!

     Give the comatose economy a ventilator and IV garamycin, the aspirin and Pepto have no symptomatic relief for the comatose.

     It’s the mortgage economy stupid!  It’s still the mortgage economy stupid!    MANDATE creditworthy and sensible mortgage lending for all TARP beneficiaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT’S the MORTGAGE ECONOMY STUPID!  Part III<br />
                   STIMULUS II?</p>
<p>     It’s the mortgage economy stupid!  It’s still the mortgage economy stupid!    MANDATE creditworthy and sensible incentivized mortgage lending by all TARP beneficiaries.   Encourage the competitive neighborhood banks with mortgage stimulus incentives to expand their mortgage activity, when the major banks sit on taxpayer TARP largesse. </p>
<p>     Why is the mortgage rate so high with the huge Fed Funds rate cuts and the massive Trillion Dollar infusions of the Fed/Treasury?   Simple! Greed of the perpetrators of the credit crisis has not abated.   These greedy WS/big bank genius’ don’t get it or don’t care about the economy or anything other than their own self interest.</p>
<p>     WS/banks take the tens of Billion dollars of the taxpayers money, courtesy of former WS’er Paulson, to buy depressed priced good banks that provided responsible mortgages.   Lining their future pockets with a “Buy low with taxpayer low cost money and sell high later” strategy.  Shamelessly, they avoid prudent mortgage lending to responsible taxpayers.   </p>
<p>     Brainless, amoral greed is this “self-destructive” greed.   Take the Money and Run, Give Nothing Back.</p>
<p>     When the avarice of banks didn’t want to give the credit worthy fully scrutinized responsible mortgages, the Fed should have encourage the prudent banks (many of the smaller Hudson City etc.) to get much more involved, even with temporary Treasury subsidies.</p>
<p>Analyse the Credit Crisis</p>
<p>    Lowering the mortgage rate for the creditworthy, reduces house inventory, price deterioration and foreclosure rates, lowers all bank write downs including CDS’s the main causes of the credit crunch.</p>
<p>     Cure the highly infectious mortgage market!   Force medicine directed at the infection, a mortgage problem resolving stimulus, and the credit market will heal.</p>
<p>     Consider that a 1.5% lower mortgage rate on a $ 200,000 mortgage if totally subsidized for three years on TWO MILLION HOMES would cost/save $ 16 Billion over 3 years.    A 1.5%, 1.0%, .5% subsidized lower rate over the first 3 years would benefit THREE MILLION HOMES at $ 16 Billion.   Expanded comparable 2-4 sized mortgage stimulus variants are practical. </p>
<p>     Variants should be broad based, include temporary (1-3 years as appropriate) aid to mitigate foreclosures of creditworthy and for ARM resets for creditworthy.   Select aid for jumbo and second homes.   Extra aid for the highly depressed housing markets.   The key is creditworthy.</p>
<p>     Consider the 2008 Economic Stimulus I cost $150 Billion and did virtually nothing.   Compare that to the obvious effects of a $30-60 Billion mortgage stimulus.</p>
<p>     Ten months ago, mortgage rates should have been up to 3.0% lower level with the temporary 1.5% mortgage resolving stimulus, preventing the financial crisis we now face.   The creditworthy are not ignorant and will not subsidize the banks greed of usurping the entirety of the Fed funds rate reductions for their self interests.</p>
<p>     It is not a great surprise that current new mortgages are down 20% when rates are almost 6.5%, when they should be and will be 5% or less without a mortgage stimulus.   The creditworthy will wait and the American economy will deteriorate further.    Thank you Paulson, Bernanke, Bair and WS and major Banks!</p>
<p>     JUST IMAGINE, how the cascade of events in mortgages if reversed over the last 10 11 months would have unfolded.</p>
<p>     It doesn’t take a WS genius to comprehend that if homes were more affordable from lower mortgage rates, than housing inventory would be reduced, housing prices would be less depressed and necessary bank write downs would be very much reduced and the financial crisis much less severe.</p>
<p>     These positive impacts of a more normal housing market would transfer to all aspects of the economy from a more positive consumer, to a vastly improved stock market.</p>
<p>     The mortgage stimulus would directly improve those most severely impacted, employment in housing construction, real estate, home furnishings and even WS.</p>
<p>     A more positive consumer would stimulate the retail, hard goods and auto industries etc, curbing job loses and adding a few more bricks in rebuilding the house of economic confidence. </p>
<p>The “Year Too Late” Solution</p>
<p>    Economic Stimulus II, if enacted must contain a mortgage resolving stimulus of $ 40-60 Billion.</p>
<p>     We must stop giving the economy a daily dose of two aspirin and a swig of Pepto Bismol for the headache and upset stomach.   It’s an infection stupid.   While the economic symptoms ameliorate slightly, the infection is growing toward a deadly sepsis status that has pushed the patient into a coma.   Doctors Bernanke, Paulson and Bair, it’s a deadly infection!</p>
<p>     Give the comatose economy a ventilator and IV garamycin, the aspirin and Pepto have no symptomatic relief for the comatose.</p>
<p>     It’s the mortgage economy stupid!  It’s still the mortgage economy stupid!    MANDATE creditworthy and sensible mortgage lending for all TARP beneficiaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Mishan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Mishan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite its complicated and very sad featur, this on going U.S.-global finacial crisis, also has a precious long lasting macro-economic-educational- learning exprience for Americans as well as the rest of the world. Due to its widespread grave impacts on almost every person in the U.S. plus on great majoreties of Europeans and rest of the world; now the mian street media also rutinly covering all aspects of this crisis including implications/ramifications of so-called stimulas-rescue approaches.As world geting smaller, we all learning to pay more attentions to real issues rather than mostly fucosing on NBA/NFL/BaseBall and so forth. Most probably Mr.Obama will be the next president with a dunting challeng of inventing a macro-management strategy to break the vicious counter producive cycles which already have come home and roosted.The vital issues are:
A- how to stimulate the economy without increasing the existing sky-rocketing budget and trade deficit?
B- Or what type of intervention-mechanism need to be applied in free market system, without jepordising its free market sprit? 
C-What type of fiar and effective tools we can design, so they simultanously would be capeable of shaping up the Waal Street and Main street (home owners, small businesses, and job creations).
I believe he has the brian and the U.S. has the needed infrastructures to accomplish these dunting tasks. 
"We the people" also need to have a group of lobiest to work for us and that's the only way out of this unprecedented- especial-interest- made-pridicament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite its complicated and very sad featur, this on going U.S.-global finacial crisis, also has a precious long lasting macro-economic-educational- learning exprience for Americans as well as the rest of the world. Due to its widespread grave impacts on almost every person in the U.S. plus on great majoreties of Europeans and rest of the world; now the mian street media also rutinly covering all aspects of this crisis including implications/ramifications of so-called stimulas-rescue approaches.As world geting smaller, we all learning to pay more attentions to real issues rather than mostly fucosing on NBA/NFL/BaseBall and so forth. Most probably Mr.Obama will be the next president with a dunting challeng of inventing a macro-management strategy to break the vicious counter producive cycles which already have come home and roosted.The vital issues are:<br />
A- how to stimulate the economy without increasing the existing sky-rocketing budget and trade deficit?<br />
B- Or what type of intervention-mechanism need to be applied in free market system, without jepordising its free market sprit?<br />
C-What type of fiar and effective tools we can design, so they simultanously would be capeable of shaping up the Waal Street and Main street (home owners, small businesses, and job creations).<br />
I believe he has the brian and the U.S. has the needed infrastructures to accomplish these dunting tasks.<br />
&#8220;We the people&#8221; also need to have a group of lobiest to work for us and that&#8217;s the only way out of this unprecedented- especial-interest- made-pridicament.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Gilliam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Gilliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Congress for supplying enough money for the CEO's and friends to receive their bonuses.  Without your help, they may have suffered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Congress for supplying enough money for the CEO&#8217;s and friends to receive their bonuses.  Without your help, they may have suffered.</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>David O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's be clear.  Banks were FORCED to take the capital injection from the Feds, it was NOT a choice.  To argue that the government can now dictate compensation within a privately owned institution is ludicrous at a minimum, and socialistic in the extreme.  
The Feds have limited what the money can be used for, and bonuses are not on the approved list.  Taxpayer dollars could therefore not be used.
As to the wisdom of any payouts, that should be left for the Companies to decide ... and as a result their Shareholders.  The preferred stock the government forced upon the banks are non-voting.  They usurp their authority (again) with this consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear.  Banks were FORCED to take the capital injection from the Feds, it was NOT a choice.  To argue that the government can now dictate compensation within a privately owned institution is ludicrous at a minimum, and socialistic in the extreme.<br />
The Feds have limited what the money can be used for, and bonuses are not on the approved list.  Taxpayer dollars could therefore not be used.<br />
As to the wisdom of any payouts, that should be left for the Companies to decide &#8230; and as a result their Shareholders.  The preferred stock the government forced upon the banks are non-voting.  They usurp their authority (again) with this consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Attwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Attwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of us would like to see, many of the so called experts in jail, before we pay out any taxpayers monies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us would like to see, many of the so called experts in jail, before we pay out any taxpayers monies.</p>
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		<title>By: J MITCHELL</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>J MITCHELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonuses are assets of the company and as such they are recoverable in a civil action. And so where is Justice Dept.???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonuses are assets of the company and as such they are recoverable in a civil action. And so where is Justice Dept.???</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The employees and executives with contracts to be paid bonuses are unsecured creditors, are they not?  Why should they get paid before anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The employees and executives with contracts to be paid bonuses are unsecured creditors, are they not?  Why should they get paid before anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: reddy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/10/30/tarp-bonuses-dividends-and-waxmans-letter/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>reddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait for good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait for good times.</p>
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