Comments on: Green New Deal makes sense but unlikely http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: will http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1315 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:36:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1315 We need a green new deal that develops the ecology jobs like: Organic farming, restoration, recycling, alternative energy, environmental education and retraining, ecological mass transit and communication, and hemp. Maybe there could be some DEEP ECOLOGY programs as part of the green new deal, and people will discover the true religion of this planet.

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By: Space Cadet http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1314 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:11:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1314 One thing absent from the article is the fact that a corresponding reduction in military spending with a rise in green projects would result in no extra burden on taxpayers while simultaneously improving our security.
With the trillion dollars a year the US spends on its (primarily useless) military industrial complex, universal health care, poverty reduction, green initiatives, public transit and other “public interest” projects are ignored. It’s easy to sell some new high tech security gadget to airports for example to combat ‘terrorism’, but God forbid money being allocated to combat social injustice.

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By: Shorebreak http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1308 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:38:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1308 The challenge is to convince enough people that green technology and carbon credits/taxes are critical if people want humanity to survive through the next century. Part of that effort is removing the stigma that’s often present when the UN and Al Gore are involved. Too many people know that these folks represent global finance. What’s needed is participation by non-profit foundations to encourage recipients of their research donations to support this cause. Between that and a more effective marketing strategy that targets peoples fears rather than raising facts, we can credibly generate enough support to make carbon taxes mandatory, and to eliminate enough current energy usage that we may even see a significant poipulation reduction over the next several years – further reducing our global carbon footprint. The key is better planning. Together, we can do it.

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By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1297 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:41:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1297 True enough oil is cheap there by eliminating market pressure and interest to develop green energy solutions. This is why “Human Reason” and not the market should be directing investment. We have caught a break, the rain has stopped unexpectedly. So let’s hurry up and fix the leaky roof while there is still time.

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By: Anup Chandrakeerthi http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1293 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:06:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1293 Thrust for cleaner energy could not have received a greater incentiviser than the present global economic upheaval.
This is a blessing in disguise and should be capitalized upon. Leaders across the world should unite to take bold decisions on this front and make investments that future generations will thank them for.
Policy makers from India (up for elections in 2009) & China should step up to the plate and make the right decisions. Let not this chance whitter away by giving handouts to the incumbents.

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By: Lenny http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1288 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:47:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1288 In order to survive the crisis we need to understand that old ways to live are on their way out. New era is coming and it is impossible to live as we used to. I would call this new era ’deglobalization’ i.e. things move to local level as globalized economy no longer works.
We cannot wait until the government does something: we have to do something ourselves. Plant a garden, install a wind generator, open a small shop where cars can be converted to electric power. Anyone can start doing something, if today we stop taking plastic bags and use let’s say canvass ones our country will be cleaner tomorrow. If today all of us walk out and plant a tree, our country will be greener tomorrow. If people chip in and buy a few solar panels to power 5-10 homes our country will depend less on oil imports.
It is time to do something. Build a greenhouse, insulate your home, buy a bicycle.
We can create millions of jobs overnight if we change the way we think and act. Our new spending habits will change the world around us. If everybody starts building greenhouses our economy will shift to accommodate their needs.
Let’s imagine for a second that the economy has collapsed and there is no more government to take care of things. What would people do? I guess everybody would walk out of their houses, get together and very quickly they would come to consensus about what has to be done. They would assign responsibilities and would start working – someone would go fishing, another person would plant potatoes, the third one would make clothes. This is not happening now, as everybody waits for the government to take care of things. We have to act now and let’s not wait to be ‘bailed out’ – as we can do it ourselves.
Let’s start rebuilding our country and the government will follow.

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By: jmmx http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1286 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:17:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1286 Here in USA should start with work on the solar distribution grid. I’l bet you could make initial design and begin to ramp up construction in 9 months.

It should be a government project like TVA. This will assure the lowest costs to the public. Public electric utilities continue to supply best value to the public.

Need to pass a law though that cannot pay more than 2X property values of 2008. There is no need for land speculators to make a killing at the expense of the tax payers!

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By: Albert Hempel http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1279 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:23:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1279 From the Australian perspective, things are simillar in cultural ways and I am fully aware that America has much open space and sun-exposed places for solar power. I comment on Mark Potter’s blog and general psychology of starting locally and starting soon. I say just do it, America, you lovely bunch! Have confidence in yourselves and the earth in that order, followed by the very phenomena of natural growth. Plant your vegies, America; organically and locally. You need to get trucks off the road and over time this might alleviate stress also and improve general health. Solar and wind power, like urban vegie gardens are just beyond an only friendly barrier in your minds. Just do them. Don’t weigh down the world now with ‘that’s geeky’ and ‘too hard’ slogans, particularly after (to a great extent) such a courageous defence of liberties world wide over the last 100 years. Yes, please, Barrack Obama, green collar jobs all the way. Many parts of the global community might follow suit where they haven’t gone green collar already; the market will do whatever it does.

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By: Brad http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1278 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:03:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1278 This is dead right. All this whinging about US car makers needing handouts is rubbish. They need to simply give people what they are asking for. We want vehicles that don’t cost a fortune to run and will help the environment. (i.e. Plug-in Electric vehicles. Forget Hybrids (Their old school/history)). Detroit, what a perfect place for a Green renaisance.
Wake up America

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By: Michael http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/18/green-new-deal-makes-sense-but-unlikely/#comment-1267 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:47:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=540#comment-1267 I sincerely hope that the world leaders work together to enact a global “Green New Deal”, because there is no other choice. There simply are not enough resources on the planet to sustain the human population growth trends seen in the last 3 decades. And as we have seen, free-market economics promote short-term profit-taking rather than long term planning, exacerbating the volatility of pricing of these resources. Only a global effort to become more efficient and eliminate waste will accomplish both the need for jobs and also the need to conserve resources for future generations.

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