Comments on: The business case for high-seas piracy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: confidential conversions scam http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-31496 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:32:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-31496 Great post, this is the quality I like to see.I’ll be sharing this with Digg, it’s something that’s gotta be Dugg for sure.I’d recommend writing additional posts like this one as it’s one of your best.I will be back more often then I used to, thanks for sharing this.

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By: me http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2388 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:52:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2388 Wow… Tim Randle is a moron…
Stick to wikipedia with your comments.

The only thing that can possibly work is making piracy unprofitable. Raise the risks by placing weapons in the hands of the crew and and the benefits are no longer worth it. Perhaps a shipping company cannot afford Blackwater or a sound cannon. But they certainly can afford a few automatic weapons, a few boxes of ammo and some kevlar or perhaps a couple extra crew with adjustable morals carrying some of their own weapons.

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By: Marc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2348 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:29:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2348 Tim Randle – If so many of these comments are “absurd”, why add to the fray with ever more absurd, sheer nonsense? No sane person on here believes your suggestions come even close to understanding what is going on in Somalia at present. The difference between you and me is not ideology, but the fact that I’ve been there and seen it, you are evidently just another ‘send in the forces’ blowhard far away in America or wherever.

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By: Koos http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2319 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:21:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2319 To see what damage pirates do and how to handle them, read up on the Roman empire and Pompey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey). And it is no defence to sit far away in the US for example and argue cleverly. Violent chaos like piracy eventually reaches everyone – as the US learned so tragically in 2001. Piracy is no business model, for Pete’s sake. Neither is bank robbery or car hijacking. A business model operates in the commonly agreed laws of a civilised society/world. Piracy has as an object the destruction of those laws.

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By: tim randle http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2308 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:46:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2308 so many absurd comments, so little time.

Three cheers for the commenter admonishing those who chose the Monrovian flag (and their amazingly well trained but itty bitty Navy).

Three jeers for the guy who just had to capitalize the first letter of every third word. I didn’t try it…was it a code? Is he being held hostage right now?

Cruise ships (many of them, at least) now carry sound guns and VERY high powered water cannon which make for great defense. Even a accurately fired RPG will do little to these behemoths. Ditto for our supertanker.

Have no sympathy for these pirates…these are not out of work fisherman, displaced by nuclear radiation and Liechtensteiner’s surplus toxic waste–these are people who used to attack and kill those in line for UN food handouts. Since those are gone, like good members of society they’ve decided to seek employment instead of collecting another 17 weeks of unemployment insurance. Insurance…segue to…

…convoys are expensive. I know I know, but they are. Many of the largest oil and bulk freighters are now transiting the Horn instead of the straits. I would love to know what that added expense is?

Ironic that the pirates first asked for 10, then 15, then 25 and now…? In the meantime, oil has dropped precipitously–I wonder if that delivery price is still good!

Yeah, we should just kill the pirates when they get too close. And then lets start killing pirates in the Carib again, and while we’re at it, lets start treating drug traffickers like pirates…until we shoot down some VFR Cessna’s and a small powerboat belonging to a clergyman’s daughter. Then we’ll all recoil a la ‘what have we become’ and give it another…oh, 10 years to get here again. Or we could put 6 armed guards on every vessel. Either way.

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By: Mike http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2306 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:08:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2306 How is it that a pirate outfit that would cost a mere $25k to outfit from scratch requires a $30k-$60k security force to repel?

These aren’t crack commandos committing piracy from well fortified warships, they’re poorly trained thugs attacking from civilian speedboats.

Forget Blackwater, just keep a few AKs and RPGs on the boat and have them open fire while the pirates are approaching, or even trying to climb the grappling hooks. They’ll have height, cover, and numerical advantage even if they aren’t better trained and equipped (which wouldn’t really be that difficult to achieve).

And on the off-chance that an unidentified speedboat full of armed men just happens to be cruising around the East African shipping lanes and heads toward a freighter without any sort of ill intent, well, I just don’t see that happening.

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By: john wade http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2277 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:25:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2277 Is it not simple to look the other way . On this matter as both sides have intrinsic right to the sea. Though they do not have such rights to each other. They are guest of the ocean. But mind you what is in someones possession and not protected can be taken. Protection seems to be the issue here. Do said boats have rights to protect themselves. Maritime Law says no ? Or do simple matters of business preclude and subordinate Maritime statues. Matters of business meaning the given right to conduct it(business) anywhere in the world with some degree of safe conduct afforded and expected. The ocean w is an entity and has law and conduct. Perhaps rules of safety will prevail and piracy will be brought under the safety codes for prosecution. Is it not unlawful to unsafely operate a vessel. Perhaps with magnification for high seas travel.

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By: LadyCaritas http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2276 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:07:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2276 First of all, Blackwater Worldwide SUX.

Second, the biggest, baddest pirate was under the hand of the queen, sir francis drake, so that begs the question,

Who is footing the bill for all the guns, bullets, boats and food for these pirates?

If anyone really cared to stop these actions they could send the RIAA after the guys.
Never ever assume that this romanticized view of pirates “low risk, high reward” is accurate.
From this article it seems as if the millitary has the most to gain since “their warships cant be everywhere” perhapse they want more funding so they can police the high seas, more billion dollar ships so we can police the world is the answer I guess.

I dont doubt our little pirates are praying for that shipment of twinkies to fall in their laps, but it looks to me like every time a pirate goes yarrr, a general gets more funding.

Besides, everybody knows where the skull and crossbones comes from,, and where it ended up, even our president is a bonesmen, and by the looks of it our ship of state is taking on water. Things could be worse, we could be a service economy in a country rich in natural resources that doesnt make anything and thus has to import everything from far off lands…..oh….nevermind :(

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By: Josh Lampe http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2268 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:11:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2268 Keep a flare gun and a rocket launcher on each ship. You don’t need to spend 60k on security, just fire a warning shot, give it a minute, and let it rip. There is no way to deter them with anything else.

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By: Rabin Stephen http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2008/11/26/the-business-case-for-high-seas-piracy/#comment-2257 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:08:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=689#comment-2257 Well would this mean going back to the days when merchant ships sailed as a fleet and hence be protected en masse?

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