Comments on: Ukraine gas crisis spurs EU energy policy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Dave http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5262 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:39:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5262 I see the Russian propagandists are out in full force.

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By: Anonymous http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5227 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:12:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5227 Somehow Ukraine wants it both ways. They want to be independent from Russia (including their NATO and EU membership aspirations). Yet they believe they have the right to get gas supplies at the prices subsidized by Russia. To add more weight to their claims they keep EU hostage to the pipelines crossing their territory (a good argument for being admitted to EU, isn’t it?), refusing Russian offer of just over half the spot price (I’d take an offer like that from PSE&G any day).
The result? Now the Europeans became much more supportive to the idea of building pipelines bypassing Ukraine – and, for a good measure, Poland – another country with constant anti-Russian grudges. One more gas cut-off coinciding with a cold spell – and Europeans will look at Ukraine being again a part of Russian Empire as something quite reasonable and even desirable. After all, during the times of USSR such gas cut-offs were unthinkable.

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By: eumeu http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5137 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:30:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5137 dear Mark Devizes

That’s exactly what russian officials assumed today )))

With that problems in real sector in EU, USA and world, and financial collapse in the world, I think that question of gas supply from CIS to EU is out of USA attention. They have many other critical things to think over e.g. how to devaluation USD )))

Seems like each state of EU is on their own. This is what Russia needs.

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By: Ed Derengowski http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5134 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:15:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5134 This just strengthens the cause to invest and use renewable fuel sources. These contries all have many issues in a very complex web of issues. Russia’s new financial strength allows for muscle flexing. Yes both Germany and Russia are not good neighbors so a level playing ground is best for all. Germany has taken drastic steps toward energy to free itself. Other EU counties need to follow there example to keep the playing field level and keep excess money away from Russia (we will then will see a friendlier Russia)

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By: Mark http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5131 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:52:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5131 Guys wake -up …..this is not a problem between Russia and EU …As we all know Ukraine were always politically close to USA within last years. USA is in crisis DOLLAR loosing on the value….In europe of course apart from UK it is still not so bad .. This is the best way how to disorganize Europe .

Mark, Devizes, UK

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By: eumeu http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5130 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:14:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5130 “Freedom of press is limited to those who own one”.
Seems like people in EU, in Russia, in Ukraine and in the world do not have foggiest idea of what is going on and gas it is not the worse.

Ukraine is the largest consumer of Russian gas (appr. 20% of Russian export). Surely consumption will decrease significantly in 2009, also in EU. That means that Russia receives less money which are already spent.

Another point Putin said that Ukrainian gas piping infrastructure is metalscap. Then why Gasprom is bleeding like hell in order to get control of it?!

Pumping gas it is not nanotechnology. Prices for gas also bound to prices for oil. So 400-450 USD is not fair price, it is fair when we see USD devaluation 10 times )))

What EU needs at the moment – Algerian gas, Iranian gas through Turkey, Russian gas through Ukraine/ Belorus. That’s more than enough, without mentioning Norwegian gas.

The biggest mistake of EU will be when it clings to Russian initiatives to build new pipelines.

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By: Just Thinking http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5129 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:23:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5129 Funny how we will be so sorry we give in to the anti-nuclear lobby. How relatively happy France can sit back with a near 80% nuclear energy supply profile. The World Bank estimates that 150 billion cubic metres of natural gas is flared annually… most of it from Nigeria. This amounts to about 390 million tons CO2 per year. LPG from Nigeria (by-product from LNG) should therefore be dirt cheap….anybody need some? Where one should be sitting up and paying attention though is Gazprom’s intense interest in African gas when they have so much of their own…. especially the influence they are gaining in Nigeria.

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By: C Wayne Emerson http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5127 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:55:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5127 I fear any government monopoly. I don’t understand how anyone can believe power does anything but corrupt. Of course the time for Russia is now, not next summer, or last. How Europe could have allowed one player to supply most its needs is something we in the US have yet to learn.

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By: Ordos http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5126 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:47:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5126 Michael- I think you don’t know about Russian history and current situation! I you look to history you can see, that every country try to protect own interests!
Now about this situation. Did you where problem start? I tell you. Russian use Ukraint to transit their gas. But also Ukraine buy gas from Russia for own purpose. At the end of 2008, Ukraine must pay debt (2 billion dollar). But Ukraine has no money. So Russian close gas transfer to Ukraine until they pay money. After that Ukraine start stealing gas from EU trunk pipeline.
That’s it.

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By: Ildous, Kazan, Russia http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/13/ukraine-gas-crisis-spurs-eu-energy-policy/#comment-5125 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:39:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1227#comment-5125 the root of the evil is that Ukraine wants gas for $205 while it coasts $400. So it blackmails both Russia and EU.
mining gas is a hard work – and we want a fair, market price for it. why should we feed our Ukrainiane “friends”, who never stops fling mud at us!
free Ukraine – free prices…

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