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	<title>Comments on: First 100 Days: The mirage of pay equity</title>
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		<title>By: StewartIII</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/21/first-100-days-the-mirage-of-pay-equity/comment-page-1/#comment-9802</link>
		<dc:creator>StewartIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, My Belle: NYT&#039;s Rachel Swarns&#039;s Constant Fawning Over First Lady
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2009/03/12/michelle-my-belle-nyts-rachel-swarns-constant-fawning-over-first-lady</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, My Belle: NYT&#8217;s Rachel Swarns&#8217;s Constant Fawning Over First Lady<br />
<a href='http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2009/03/12/michelle-my-belle-nyts-rachel-swarns-constant-fawning-over-first-lady'>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters &nbsp;/2009/03/12/michelle-my-belle-nyts-rach el-swarns-constant-fawning-over-first-la dy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another feminist myth. Check total hours worked to pay - they wages are far more equal than first appears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another feminist myth. Check total hours worked to pay &#8211; they wages are far more equal than first appears.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/21/first-100-days-the-mirage-of-pay-equity/comment-page-1/#comment-5907</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had many women working for me in the past.  They were 10% of the work force, but 90% of my problems.  In most cases with laws like this, if the man and women had the same qualifications, I would hire the man.  With the man, at least I could be in my office alone with that person.  With a women, my policy has always been to have a third party long because of possible sexual harassment claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had many women working for me in the past.  They were 10% of the work force, but 90% of my problems.  In most cases with laws like this, if the man and women had the same qualifications, I would hire the man.  With the man, at least I could be in my office alone with that person.  With a women, my policy has always been to have a third party long because of possible sexual harassment claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Cann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/21/first-100-days-the-mirage-of-pay-equity/comment-page-1/#comment-5830</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Cann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If someone is not qualifies [sic] for a given title and position, don’t give them the job.&quot;

Suppose I&#039;m the weakest performer in my department. Then the company goes bankrupt. I need a job. Would I now rather be underpaid or unemployed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If someone is not qualifies [sic] for a given title and position, don’t give them the job.&#8221;</p>
<p>Suppose I&#8217;m the weakest performer in my department. Then the company goes bankrupt. I need a job. Would I now rather be underpaid or unemployed?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/21/first-100-days-the-mirage-of-pay-equity/comment-page-1/#comment-5821</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vince -- You won&#039;t be sued if you pay people equally. Were you only hiring women so that you could pay them less? 

  If you had any idea how hard it is to win a discrimination case, you wouldn&#039;t worry. You&#039;d have to be blatantly underpaying a woman to lose a case, or probably to be sued at all. Juries do not sympathize all that easily with people who file discrimination cases, and lawyers lose a fortune if they file a suit that has no chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince &#8212; You won&#8217;t be sued if you pay people equally. Were you only hiring women so that you could pay them less? </p>
<p>  If you had any idea how hard it is to win a discrimination case, you wouldn&#8217;t worry. You&#8217;d have to be blatantly underpaying a woman to lose a case, or probably to be sued at all. Juries do not sympathize all that easily with people who file discrimination cases, and lawyers lose a fortune if they file a suit that has no chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Paycheck Fairness Act and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act does not assume choices in education or a humanities major or science major, it is not about that.  It is equal pay for the SAME JOB AND SAME OCCUPATION!  Other variables such as length of time at the job or performance would have to be considered individually, but not a blockage to this important legislation.  To say that &quot;women’s incomes won’t rise&quot;, is cynical,not practical.  Your assumptions are off course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Paycheck Fairness Act and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act does not assume choices in education or a humanities major or science major, it is not about that.  It is equal pay for the SAME JOB AND SAME OCCUPATION!  Other variables such as length of time at the job or performance would have to be considered individually, but not a blockage to this important legislation.  To say that &#8220;women’s incomes won’t rise&#8221;, is cynical,not practical.  Your assumptions are off course!</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me not want to hire women now because the chance of lawsuits.  As a small business owner, I can&#039;t afford this chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me not want to hire women now because the chance of lawsuits.  As a small business owner, I can&#8217;t afford this chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasta</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/21/first-100-days-the-mirage-of-pay-equity/comment-page-1/#comment-5792</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex Discrimination is immoral, and has no place in society.  I know I know, economics professors keep saying that economics has no moral considerations.

But this is about fairness, morality and decency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex Discrimination is immoral, and has no place in society.  I know I know, economics professors keep saying that economics has no moral considerations.</p>
<p>But this is about fairness, morality and decency.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress doesn&#039;t do well with complex problems. That&#039;s part of the reason they have a 9% approval rating. This is a complex problem. It&#039;s fine to say &quot;equal pay for equal work&quot;, but what if one person has more tenure? What if one person is working an undesirable shift? 

The best way to approach this is for a non-partisan commission to give this issue the deliberation it deserves, and then give Congress an up or down vote on their recommendations - just like the Base Realignment and Closure commissions. 

Personally, I would like to see much more transparency in pay and benefits, including those for executives. These days, the excesses of executive compensation are a much larger problem than gender pay equity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress doesn&#8217;t do well with complex problems. That&#8217;s part of the reason they have a 9% approval rating. This is a complex problem. It&#8217;s fine to say &#8220;equal pay for equal work&#8221;, but what if one person has more tenure? What if one person is working an undesirable shift? </p>
<p>The best way to approach this is for a non-partisan commission to give this issue the deliberation it deserves, and then give Congress an up or down vote on their recommendations &#8211; just like the Base Realignment and Closure commissions. </p>
<p>Personally, I would like to see much more transparency in pay and benefits, including those for executives. These days, the excesses of executive compensation are a much larger problem than gender pay equity.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Horrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Horrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a job discription is listed and along with it the pay.
four people apply for it.  In one year an additional need is found to hire another person.  They get hired for a different pay. But the original pay is still listed.  It doesn&#039;t matter what the gender both should be paid the listed pay.  Thats fair, right and equal.  Because water coolers do not exist at most of these jobs how is one to know?  Should we blame the lack of water coolers???  People will be so hungry in the next year that they will take what is offered......equality doesn&#039;t have much clout when starvation is at the door.  Welcome to 21st Century America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a job discription is listed and along with it the pay.<br />
four people apply for it.  In one year an additional need is found to hire another person.  They get hired for a different pay. But the original pay is still listed.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what the gender both should be paid the listed pay.  Thats fair, right and equal.  Because water coolers do not exist at most of these jobs how is one to know?  Should we blame the lack of water coolers???  People will be so hungry in the next year that they will take what is offered&#8230;&#8230;equality doesn&#8217;t have much clout when starvation is at the door.  Welcome to 21st Century America.</p>
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