Comments on: Obama’s investment horizon for clean energy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Larry http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-7592 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:52:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-7592 If we have to stimulate the economy why not do it in a way that pays financial and security dividends for generations to come. Get well on the way to getting off foreign oil. One security example, being in a position to shut down the flow of oil from Iran if they insist on building nukes. No need for a huge army, just shut off there income. Something Bush couldn’t even threaten because of foreign oil dependency…

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By: Ronin http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-7567 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:45:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-7567 What ever happened to that “can do” American spirit that made that country what it is?
What I mostly hear now is “It wont work, its too expensive, this is wrong, that is wrong”
My God, it sounds like you are all ready to give up before you start. At that rate you may as well lay down and die.
Quit feeling sorry for yourselves.

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By: John Remlin http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-7279 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:31:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-7279 In other words, climate change legislation is coming. And I think that should be the larger point: reducing GHG emissions can bring business opportunities. I read John Kemp’s article after reading about some of the business opportunities here (http://www.environmentallawresource.com  /articles/climate-change/). Reading both articles provides a better perspective on the issue.

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By: Nobody http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-6873 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:45:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-6873 Posted by Mike Clark
Hey John, juicy stuff. But there’s a “hidden” cost factor that you are not considering in your comparison of locally grown fuel sources with big oil: WAR

As long as the geopolitical costs of oil consumption are not billed into the actual price, there is no way they can be considered. And the only thing that can reverse this situation is again the fuel tax, or to be precise a tax swap that moves taxation burden from income, payroll and other taxes to some sort of a gas tax.

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By: Mike Clark http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-6832 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:16:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-6832 Hey John, juicy stuff. But there’s a “hidden” cost factor that you are not considering in your comparison of locally grown fuel sources with big oil: WAR.

The overall costs of maintaining “peace” in the middle east alter the ratio, and dramatically improve the cost-effectiveness of anything that makes us energy independent.

We haven’t had a president since Eisenhower who really set his sights on long-term economic benefit for the entire country. What was the cost of the interstate highway system?

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By: Pete Cann http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-6644 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:06:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-6644 I hope things will be planned and not backed into. We need more power transmission lines, but we need the right ones. It often causes anguish to the people whose property is taken, and that shouldn’t be wasted. The system should also be designed from Day 1 to carry the wind and solar power we’ll eventually use. As far as batteries and cars, can electrochemical batteries compete over the life of a vehicle? I’ve had so much bad luck with them. We shouldn’t pile into electrochemical batteries if we can expect purely capacitive technology to be available soon. We shouldn’t ask the automakers to waste money. We need vision, not dog biscuits for constituencies.

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By: Nobody http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/28/obamas-investment-horizon-for-clean-energy/#comment-6631 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:59:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=1691#comment-6631 The president did not make a final decision about fuel economy, or whether California and other states will be allowed to pre-empt federal regulation of greenhouse gases by introducing their own rules. He also shied away from controversial topics such as raising gasoline taxes or introducing a cap-and-trade program to curb carbon emissions and support other technologies.

This is why I am so skeptical about this while green thing. Without some sort of a fuel tax, this is just a sheer wasting of funds and pushing automakers into bankruptcy. Hardening EE standards will lead to more expensive cars, hybrids are not cheap at all, while gas remains cheap and the demand for cars is collapsing. Last month SUVs were reported to be outselling regular cars again. Unless the price of gas is raised people will avoid buying green cars, continue to drive the already existing SUVs and buy used ones. Never mind the rebound effect that such policies will inevitably create – as the driving per mile becomes cheaper, people will simply drive more. There is something that Obama and Hugo Chavez share in common, both are hopeless populists who believe they can create a new society by throwing around presidential decrees.

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