Comments on: Computer industry hopes lie in the clouds http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Sunil http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11687 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:28:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11687 100 years ago.. many people refused to put their money in banks…now we have only plastic cards !
companies ask question about data security and privacy in cloud environment but they will eventually move to cloud.

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By: michael http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11630 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:56:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11630 I might be old, but am I wise?

I think that anyone who puts their private information in the cloud is completely insane and deserves whatever they get.

Private information should be kept in a private place.

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By: sweeny'60s http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11627 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:49:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11627 please; amazon, google and microsoft send the cloud over our parched Southern Land. the last 232 years(since the British invasion) of intensive agriculture and dark industrialisation has left our land decimated and arid.

the traditional owners(the custodians of the land) have been murdered and displaced to the country that was deemed uninhabitale. we said sorry???

the land was nurtured and revered for over 70 000 years and was in opulence. the native marsupials and magical forests were in a state of grandeur and were fiercely protected by the hunter gatherer nations, of which there were many.

they were a proud people and lived in perpetual respect of their land.

the white man arrived, marines from the British Isles, under the guise of explorers, and welcomed into the land, they thought gods had arrived but little did they know of what was about to happen to THEIR land.

so please send us the computer clouds and cleanse our entire nation with life~giving rain.

let the rainbow serpent live again.

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By: Massimiliano http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11504 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:01:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11504 Clous, ASP, SaaS… In my opinion a main question is still unresolved. Are we really focusing on the users demand ? What components of the ICT portfolio are really requires to produce goods that people can afford and what are not ? When lean, reliable and fast are real requirements to provide people with value the complexity of a cloud or a grid seems to be outdated. There is a terrible distance between the business and the ICT services that is no longer possible to see direct benefits ore efficiencies without making assumptions that are never verified. Perhaps it is time to getting back to a closer view of the business and again a mode direct support from ICT.

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By: Jumper http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11492 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:22:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11492 There is no such thing as a cloud in computing. It’s a term devised to sell to dim-bulb bean counters and an unfortunately large number of clueless executives. Clouds are sever farms. However, most bean counters would reply, “No thanks. We can do that ourselves,” to a server farm offer. So, the cloud peddlers try to sell a PR fraud called “clouds.” What next, sunshine?

If one plans on retrieving the data, each packet must have a headers so it can be retrieved. If the server system is hacked, a) the data can be traced to owner, analyzed and retrieved or b) the data can be destroyed.

Of course it will be off-shored to the Indians. What a joy. Notice that a Canadian team has recently found that the Indian computer systems were extensively hacked by the Chinese in a 104-nation spy network.

The main rationale for this cloud baloney is the explosion of e-mail storage and a cover my ass with stored computer data mentality. Do the same thing we did in the paper era. On a certain date, everything from the past year is packaged and sent to storage. Period. After three years, it is destroyed. Period. It’s called common sense.

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By: Silverback2009 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11304 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:57:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11304 Cloud computing is simply wishful thinking when hardware and software companies ran out of ideas and user get sick of putting out lots of bucks for forced upgrades for newer (oftentimes not really demanded) features.

both in personal use, SME’s and corporates are cornered about privacy and security and cloud computing can render very little credibility. Governments, on the other hand, will easily intrude/tap into your data information if they desire to do so.

for costs, with the rapidly accelerating depression of computer (PC or servers)cost (e.g., the net PC for just a few hundred bucks) why should we let Amazon, Google, Microsoft or IBM to control our destiny and pray for the reliability, availability, and serviceability they provide us?

would the banks and insurance companies goo for it? most probably not. Would the larger enterprises go for it, I doubt it. For SME’s definitely they will not be willing to be reliant on a cloud (probably in India)to support their lifeline. I firmly believe at some time in the future, these clouds will be outsourced offshore too.

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By: PKohli http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11190 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:21:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11190 There are always 2 sides to the story. Back in 90’s we all saw data centers pop up all over the place hosting portals. Every software vendor had a “Portal Strategy”, and all it was a glorified way to move applications from PC to Web. So why would it surprise anyone to see the same move to a “the cloud”. This might not be the next wave but sure can spark the industry for an uptick.

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By: Jochem Pasman http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11124 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:14:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11124 The problem with Cloud Computing at the moment is exactly the title of the article: it is the hopes of the computer industry, not nessecarily that of other industries. Answering to questions above why one would want to move to the cloud: obviously, the massive elastic scalability is something that is not easy to be replicated in-house.
Another interesting question here is: what can cloud computing contribute to both the bottom line and the growth of a (non-IT) business, and is it able to deliver this better than older but related concepts?

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By: Andrew http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11087 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:58:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11087 So we started with mainframe computing, then time sharing services, then pc’s on a LAN with in-house servers, then hosted servers, now ‘cloud’ computing. Same old thing, brand new name. Its still all about the corporate bean counters thinking they can get something for nothing.

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By: Dr. Reality http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/03/26/computer-industry-hopes-lie-in-the-clouds/#comment-11076 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:45:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2681#comment-11076 Yet another re-branding of an idea that is advantageous only the vendor. Personal experience with ASP(Application Service Provider) Model development, Wyse terminals and more demonstrate the following inconclusive list of problems with this “cloud”.
1. SLOW (network)- Far slower than having your own computer/server.
2. SLOW (software)- Extra software required to manage delivery of your applications + SLA (Service Level Agreement) etc.
2. OUTAGES – Frequent with the added ‘bonus’ that you have no control over it.
3. SECURITY – Servers across the world in corrupt countries are not safe. Don’t kid yourself.
4. OWNERSHIP – Whose data is it anyways?
5. FORCES PAYMENT/UPGRADES – Guess What? You’re NOT in control of your own software + data. “Providers” can easily coerce you into extra fees because of your dependency.

Just like any other industry, be wary of “new” ideas. Sometimes they are not in the consumer’s best interest. You’re better off without it. Keep control of our business to yourself.

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