Comments on: Pedro’s story still relevant today http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: PAYAL NAGDA http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-13454 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:47:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-13454 Would encourage youngster to enter into politics.Make a new party put front new ideas and implement it. increase literacy level.

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By: Sergio Flores, Sweden http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-13295 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:03:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-13295 Dear Mr Clinton. I am glad that you still continue to work hard for a better world and seat on your laurels. Its great to hear you talk about Pedro Zamora who made a big impact upon my family, which at that time were very prejudicious, but changed as they watch on the screen how Pedro’s life unfolded in from of their eyes. Now they work to fight HIV/AIDS. It is so important people understand that everybody has to get involved in the camp againt HIV/AIDS and other human tragedies and no matter how little one’s contribution might be… it will always make a huge difference.

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By: Michael Ham http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12557 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:37:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12557 Anonymous,I’m not saying anything good about the Iranian gov’t, it’s not a good government. It’s just not as hellbent on murder as the US and Israeli governments are, both will happily blow up buildings full of women/children/civilians and then not let the press investigate then after a week or so say they killed one or two “terrorist gunmen” to justify the total slayings.BHO is a neocon, he’s no different than Bush. He just sent a 17,000 person death squad into Afghanistan, where we no longer even have a mission. Republicans and Democrats are the exact same thing in office, they just spit different lies in their campaigns. Both passed big government bailouts, both have record setting spending budgets, neither cares about border security, both are big on nation building, both tax us through the roof, nobody’s repealing the patriot act, both big on dumping money down the drug war bottomless well, I can’t think of one major difference. Neocon is right on the money.Plus, for your own good, stop making references to Obama’s middle name. Makes you look silly.

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By: Anonymous http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12510 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:26:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12510 Michael,You again contradict yourself. To you, keeping kids away from homosexual propaganda is hatred, but hanging a few dozen gays just for being what they are is OK. Doesn’t look like double standard?Besides Iran killed a comparable number of Arabs since the time it became mullocracy. I’m too lazy to look up the stats, but Iran-Iraq war was one of the bloodiest since the end of WWII. The mad mullahs killed their own, too. Their favorite way of clearing minefields was sending battalions of teenagers, often armed only with quran, to attack Iraqi positions behind the minefields. And only after these youngsters were expended they’d send in tanks and real troops.Iran stands behind multiple acts of terror against US troops in Iraq – even more so than al-Qaeda. Iran is ultimately responsible for acts of terror by Hezbulla and Hamas. If any part of W’s definition of “Axis of Evil” was true, it was Iran. Kim with his “satellite launch” looks plain laughable. As turned out, Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction program was a bluff, and it was invented to scare Iran, W just stupidly bought into it.And now, about Israel’s presumed nukes. Even if they, as presumed, exist since 1960’s, they have never been used, even though there were many occasions any other country in their situation would, 1973 Arab attack to name just one. You can’t name any other state that was openly threatened to be “driven into the sea” or “wiped off the map”.“neocon governments like the U.S. and Israel have thousands of such nukes already and will happily start preemptive wars” – what neocons? BHO? Puhhh-lease. The only time Israel started preemptive war – 1967 – it was ruled by Labor (which is their euphemism for Socialists). Incidentally, the aftermath of that war was the time when Israel was most popular around the world (except Arabs, Islamists, and Communists). Even the current Israeli gov’t, dubbed “the most right-wing in history”, is a hodgepodge of Socialists, Centrists, and Populists, none of them is anything like a plain Conservative, let alone neocon. Even Lieberman is more realist than ideology-driven, he just doesn’t hesitate to spell out what others only whisper in private conversations. One nuke in the hands of mad theocracy is higher risk of being used than all American, Soviet, European, and Israeli nukes, combined, at the peak of Cold War.

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By: Michael http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12508 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:18:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12508 Anonymous,I have plenty of friends and family who are christian and repulican, probably a majority in fact. If someone hates another group of people like you do, I don’t hate them back, I feel pity for them. I can only get myself to feel pity for people who feel a need to hate an entire group of millions of people who have done absolutely nothing to harm or hurt them.Maybe you aren’t someone who preaches God hates Fags but that’s not much different from saying it’s disgusting/immoral/dangerous.Gay pride parades are shown in a good light in the media, so are christian events, the million man march, people of all sects. Gays certainly have no positive bias, you just don’t want anything positive said about them.Ron Paul ran as a Republican, but come on, you and I both know he’s nothing like every other trash member of that party.Nothing bad ever happened to me at my Christian School, it was a great school.The U.S. Government has killed a million Arabs with these 2 wars, we killed 6 million Vietnamese in the 60’s and 70’s and in that time frame Iran has killed a few dozen gays. Their government is unequivocally better than ours. Why would I be worried about them maybe having 1 nuke in 20 years when neocon governments like the U.S. and Israel have thousands of such nukes already and will happily start preemptive wars? Who’s got a better chance of using one?

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By: Anonymous http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12490 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:23:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12490 Michael Ham,“I just view everyone equally, Christian, Muslim, Gay, Straight…” and then in the same post “…republican and christian, 2 entities that train their followers to hate gays…”. You really have to determine which one of these defines your position. Somehow you think that gay pride parades and gays promoted in the media as cool role models are OK, yet referring to the Scriptures (and Lev.20:13 as an integral part thereof) is not. One lifestyle has every right to be glorified, the other must be kept inside church walls.As for teaching hate, being neither Republican nor Christian I can neither confirm nor deny it. What’s for sure, I’m not one from “God hates fags” crowd. I don’t care what they do to each other as long as they keep it to their bedrooms. But I will not let my son anywhere near a summer camp where the leader is openly gay. Since these folks can’t reproduce naturally, they aggressively recruit among the youths new members into their so-called “community”, and that recruitment is something I categorically oppose. And, by the way, if I’m not mistaken, Ron Paul was running in Republican primaries.Looks like you were badly upset by something or someone in the Christian school you once attended. Understandable – it’s a part of growing up, I also was at some time dreaming about setting fire to my school, so much I hated it back then. Most kids eventually get over it. Apparently some keep carrying it inside into adulthood.And yeah, “Iran is nothing to worry about, their government is far better than ours.” They surely must be left alone developing nukes and delivery means, they do it only as scientific experiment. They don’t threaten anyone, except Israel, America, Europe, and all other infidels not embracing their brand of Islam. And, by the way, they don’t discriminate against gays, they just hang them.

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By: Michael Ham http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12454 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:34:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12454 Alfonso and Anonymous,You can believe this country was formed on being Christian that’s fine, I’ll respectfully disagree but I do know 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt that our country wasn’t formed on the notion that we’d have government imposed morality lessons and to have the taxpayers pay the burden of such.I just view everyone equally, Christian, Muslim, Gay, Straight, Buddha or Bi, sadly as this comment board and often times in society we’re showing a desire to go to backwards old ways of living that advocates for us all to judge anyone who thinks/acts/looks differently than we do. From having gone to a christian school for 3 years and church for 18 years I remember being taught differently and that doing that was a terrible sin but I guess my teachers were all incorrect, yes?Again, people being gay doesn’t hurt you in any marginal way, you just need a way to vent your hate, which is sad to me. Like I said hopefully someday you have a gay friend or family member so you can learn and this chain of gay-hating in your family stops at you.I’m also seeing where part of this comes from, you’re republican and christian, 2 entities that train their followers to hate gays. Carter was a terrible present but he didn’t expand government or spend or give failed attempts at american imperialism near as much as Reagan/Bush.Oh and Iran is nothing to worry about, their government is far better than ours. They hated Saddam Hussein while we were giving him money and military support.

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By: Anonymous http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12431 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:27:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12431 Michael Ham,“you think I’m an Obama supporter?” – Admittedly I got this wrong – but some of your reasoning made me to. Usually aggressive pro-gay, pro-life, anti-Christian happen to be aggressive Liberals and Obama supporters.“…3rd on my worst of all time presidents after Bush and Woodrow Wilson…” You forgot to mention Jimmy Carter. Preaching “human rights and democratic freedoms” to Brezhnev was simply idiotic. Withdrawing support from Shah in the name of the same values and losing Iran to Khomeini – the worst foreign policy blunder in US history, IMHO. Add to that stagflation – and Obama or whoever comes thereafter would have hard time to surpass Carter for the title of Worst President Ever.“I’ve never seen the gov’t aggressively promote gayness” – never heard about Rainbow Curriculum? Tell me no taxpayer money was spent on creation and promotion thereof.I’m advocating not portraying being gay as being cool. Of course some people have their brains wired wrong way, and they’ll discover their orientation with or without external help. However I want to protect young people from things they can’t process adequately. If they can’t buy smokes or drinks until they’re 18, in some places even 21, that means they are considered not capable of making informed decision about using these. How then they can make informed decision about their orientation? They can experiment with it just because they made to think that it’s cool – and it’s that proverbial slippery slope. Portray it as dangerous and disgusting instead (death from AIDS is disgusting without a doubt), and this may postpone experimentation until the age when they can think for themselves.

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By: alfonso http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12419 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:46:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12419 Michael Ham: Your point of view is wrong and misleading; the USA were founded on Christian Morals and Principles; I advise you to read the first chapter of the declaration of Indepence of the United States; in spite of your biased views, it was a thorough Christian declaration of freedom.

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By: Michael Ham http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/04/01/pedros-story-still-relevant-today/#comment-12354 Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:18:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=2833#comment-12354 opening line should read “I said I’m for limited government”

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