Comments on: Ahmadinejad won. Get over it http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: DissectedNews1 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-30366 Thu, 20 May 2010 12:14:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-30366 I have written a comprehensive review of the evidence, entitled “Who Really Won the Disputed Iran Election?” in order to settle this conversation. Initially, it was an attempt to synthesize all of the arguments into a single location. I fully expected that, upon careful review of the evidence, the uncertainty in my mind as to the results would rise and I would make many concessions. It has not, and I have not.

The Leveretts are wrong. The evidence that they use does not support their argument. The evidence to the contrary is compelling. But that isn’t the alarming piece to this puzzle.

What is highly suspect is the level of certainty of the Leveretts’ arguments. When all other analysts are using words like “suspect,” or “troubling,” and most raise as many questions as they close, Flynt and Hillary Leverett argue with clarity what is absolutely unclear. With that in mind, one has to question their motivation and objectivity, as well as their relevancy in the continued dialog about the future of Iran.

http://www.dissectednews.com/2010/05/who -really-won-the-disputed-iran-election.h tml

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By: Naz http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17255 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:52:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17255 Which planet are you guys from? Do you watch the news at all? Do you check youtube and the videos that are being posted by people from Iran at all? If you do then how could you be so ignorant and say that there is not evidence that the result had been rigged. If you have any doubts I can send you tons of evidence and accurate documents to prove that they have been. But I guess you guys are purposely trying to ignore the facts and play your nasty political games as you did during Bush’s administration. I read that in Bush’s Administration, Hillary Leverett worked as the Director for Iran, Afghanistan and Persian Gulf Affairs at the National Security Council. I am not surprised because at the same time US had the worst foreign policy in that region. With ignorant people like Hillary who closes her eyes on the facts, I am not surprised that you did so bad in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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By: Edward M. Blake http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17226 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:53:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17226 So again do the people who say the vote wasn’t rigged have any evidence other than the word of the Iranian state press?

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By: adamant http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17197 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:44:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17197 I feel that that Iranians living abroad not voting for Ahmadinejad is exactly what one should expect. They are not a representative sample of the population though. The reasons for leaving the country can be manifold, ranging from membership of Mujahedin Khalq to supporter of the exiled Shah. Also having to live in a traditional muslem society when brought-up in a westernised family could be a reason to grasp any opportunity to leave.
As obtaining a visa for EU countries and USA is extremely troublesome, one has to take recourse to seeking asylum and alleging prosecution by the administration for one reason or another.
Therefore I dismiss the implicit presumption that the Iranian electorate has cast their votes the same way as the Tehran elite, intelligentsia and Iranians living abroad.

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By: Hassan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17122 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:52:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17122 let’s pretend ahmadi’s win was rigged. where is the actualy proof? besides the few complaints that we hear, which are pretty much heard in every country in every election. we have the same thing happen in every election here in the U.S including the most recent election of Obama.all these “experts” who were expecting Mousavi to win, what were these based on? oh phone polls in a country where half the country does not even access? please, let’s see the proof first and then we’ll talk

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By: krishnamurthi ramachandran http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17121 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:41:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17121 I have been reading,listening and watching of recent effects of election results in Iran.
As per my knowledge goes, majority of protests were against the present Iran President ,created by certain western media,and from certain social websites.
Naturally,educated,well dressed, foreign Iranians,urban youth,adults had assembled in many notable points,conveyed their feelings to a defeated presidential candidate.
As on today!s reports,people are slowly coming back to normal.
Thanks for showing of their democratic feelings.
We have other works to do for general wellbeing.
Enough is enough.

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By: It makes you think http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17112 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:18:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17112 I believe that America is right (in the political sense) to support the Saudis and the Egyptians, in order to maintain favourable relations with them.

It doesn’t mean that I support the way those governments operate. Given the choice, I would rather they be democratic. Given enough western influence, they may eventually turn out that way.

As Iran is neither democratic, nor America’s ally, there is no reason for America to support them. Especially when that nation is expressly working against American interests.

Perhaps some more simple-minded conservatives might play the “righteous” card as a blanket excuse. But politics is always more complicated then that.

Still, I can accept there are other views out there who may not agree with my own.

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By: Justin http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17094 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:23:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17094 Try doing a google search for Iran and Benford’s law. There is pretty good statistical evidence that the numbers are fudged. Try doing some research, before complaining that stuff is just made up.

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By: Michael Ham http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17078 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:48:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17078 it makes you think,
I dunno if I was clear, I apologize if not, but I don’t support any of the 3 gov’ts I mentioned. Our allegiance with some has no affect on my judgement of the quality of gov’t.

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By: Aman http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/15/ahmadinejad-won-get-over-it/#comment-17066 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:01:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4058#comment-17066 The best analysis so far on Iran elections, without any bias on either side. If what the the author says is true then other reporters have been involved in selective reporting of incidents and thus have been misguiding the public.
As for the authur’s suggestion of engaging with Iran. US should understand that it should deal with any country as equals. After all its a democracy and every one is equal. Similarly in the world democracy, all the countries are equal. Thus, if US can have nuclear weapons, then so can Iran.

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