Comments on: Obama, Iran and a meaningless phrase http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Folklight http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17741 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:23:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17741 Thought provoking and timely… The only thing the International Community has been completely consistent in; is the Elites assumption that they have the “right to do no wrong” and the masses are made to be “ruled” over.

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny. – Edmund Burke –

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By: Robert http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17640 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:26:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17640 The term “international community” is high-sounding rhetoric for what is more accurately described as an amorphous chaos.

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By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17598 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:06:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17598 Well written article Bernd. A little wordy and too soft spoken. You should have just come out and stated the President was misrepresenting and distorting the the positions and views of other nations in order to give legitimacy to his own politically necessary rhetoric.

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By: Wilderness Voice http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17391 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:38:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17391 The “International Community” means those people around the world, however few in number or power, who agree with the speaker. Period. It is a fancy, self-justifying synonym for “we”.

On Rwanda, we sat in front of our televisions and watched the French Government ship plane load after plane load of machetes to Rwanda, unloaded under the watchful eyes of the French Foreign Legion. We did nothing at all. Our Government, in particular, did nothing at all. This does not support arguments about moral leadership.

We have quite a blemished record as a country, and not just back from 250 years ago and not just white British men either. Our laws provide severe punishment for the bottom 80% of our population while letting the rich and powerful act with impunity. Our election system is unrepresentative and gerrymandered to the point that “elections” to the House of Representatives are a ridiculous waste of money that could be used to take care of our own needy. I mean, it is obvious when the voters return 98% of incumbents to office, you don’t really need elections. Everyone loves the Boss.

We have big problems here. We need to clean them up and introduce a bit of fear of punishment in the powerful who hold themselves above the law. We need some honest, plain speaking about our own system. No wonder our reputation around the planet is sullied.

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By: ZT http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17388 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:33:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17388 It would be nice if you followed this up with a peace about “international law.” As you mentioned, there is some codified international law in the UN, but much of it (such as the strict interpretation of “proportionality” we heard so much about half a year ago) seems to be unwritten. A piece clarrifying this would be enlightening.

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By: It makes you think http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17386 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:07:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17386 The berlin wall collapsed on it’s own? How quaint.

It collapsed because of the Cold War. Because America aggressively pursued the USSR in a brinkmanship of economics, wars, espionage and political actions.

Then finally the USSR could not cope with the strain, and it collapsed.

And then all the people who spent the seventies protesting American actions suddenly look around. They see the Berlin Wall collapse and go “Alright man, we DID it! Peace and understanding brought down the berlin wall!”.

Now THAT is funny.

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By: Guran Walker http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17365 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:52:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17365 Excellent point and well taken. We try to imply a strong sense of the ironic when we use the term. Basically, The International Community can be taken to be broadly the enemy of Mankind and its aspirations for freedom of opinion and religion. Instead, “International Opinion” has become a pseudo religion in its own right and the great fallacy here is that, the lowest common denominator is truly the lowest. The will of the majority, expressed in venues such as the UN “That August Chamber” is purely antagonistic to decency and humanitarinaism – the UN is a tool against Mankind. This is simply an observation, not a rant. We do good rants though.

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By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17364 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:42:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17364 True that Sebastion!

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By: Edge, Philippines http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17360 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:34:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17360 “International Community” is a virtual and subconscious concept induced by US to consciously engaged and interfere in the internal affairs of many countries. Reaping from the effects on global trade and economy, ‘globalization’ as another virtual scheme perpetuated by US has resulted to unfair trade agreements against developing nations (which US virtually considers as the larger composite of IC), is no different from IC. It only caused more chaos and instability elsewhere. The more the US exercise its heroic stance, the more that US becomes insecure and ultimately takes the lead in some freak reactionary dispositions in the name of democracy and peace. I am reminded of vultures.

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By: monica http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/25/obama-iran-and-a-meaningless-phrase/#comment-17359 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:57:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4177#comment-17359 As an Israeli lady said when asked about the settlements in the west bank ” he is not my president and i did not vote for him to become one”. As for me i would say ” he does not represent my government or my opinion”. i could go on, but i do not have the time to ridicule everything he says.

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