Comments on: What will the climate change bill do to your job? http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17672 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:46:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17672 No one can deny the actions of greedy bankers has caused suffering all around the globe. More job loss or higher cost of living will not help the plight of those who still work. Whether or not cap and trade works is moot.

Continuing to burn coal is in no ones interest but mine operators. It is the dirtiest fuel there is and has the highest CO2 emissions. Equally disturbing is the suspension of fly(coal)ash in liquids. This waste is stored on sight at power plants across the country. I find it regrettable that little attention is given by the media to the TVA coal ash spill in Kingston Tennessee.

One billion gallons of ash flooded the town when the containment facility failed. The EPA has kept 45 of the worst hazardous waste sights a secret until last week. The information was released to environmental groups through the “Freedom Of Information Act” with the help of Senator Boxer from California. The Kingston catastrophe is estimated to be 100 time worse than the Exxon Valdez oil spill on the Alaskan coast. One can only speculate as to why President Obama while not release the names of visitors from the guest list to the White House. It is rumored coal industry interests have been making frequent visits.

The People of Kingston that were still working no longer do because of this disaster. At some point we must recognize the health of our environment is as critical to our economic well being as finances and manufacturing.

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By: Louis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17605 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:28:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17605 Oh no we as Americans can’t change our lifestyles! Not the American lifestyle. In America I’m FREE to pollute that’s what the commie liberal scum don’t understand. And just because I’m free to do something means I should! Because that’s my God given right!

No Way No How! Changing our lifestyle is not what we do here in America. No no no the world does what we say, we’re the leaders! We have the best economy, we have the best freedom. We got it all. Why do you think everyone wants to come here and better themselves?

Instead of changing anything let’s deny that climate change is real because that’s easier. If we say it’s a scam with out any proof but cite “information” then we can go on living the way we’ve become accustomed. All we have to do is compare the amount of carbon that gets released into the atmosphere from non-human sources and from human sources and tell everyone that we can’t possibly be the ones to blame because looking at the numbers it can only be deduced that it’s a “natural” phenomenon.
HA but what we won’t tell people is the amount of inorganic carbon that get’s released into the atmosphere from human and non-human sources. This is the type of carbon that isn’t readily absorbed by plants. We will also conveniently leave out the amount of carbon that gets absorbed into the environment period. If we only talk about how much is released then it’s a net positive statement.

All we have to do is muddle the debate cite unemployment and ailing economy and we’ll win. Economy vs Environment pff economy will always win because people are greedy and lazy. We won’t talk about the fact that a high paying job is worthless with out clean air to breathe, but that’s ok we’ll be able to afford buying and importing all of our food from south America, or elsewhere when we’ve polluted our own land so much that nothing can grow.

Screw alternative energy those aren’t viable, I won’t really say why, I will say this though, it’s because your climate change is killing the wind currents in the midwest. So if we get those turbines up now, then there won’t be any wind in 50 years! WASTE OF MONEY JUST LIKE TAXES. No I do not want social services I’m far richer than that. I don’t care about OTHER PEOPLE’s needs because mine are met!

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By: William http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17567 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:08:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17567 First, citing today’s unemployment rates here and abroad is a red herring, since these figures reflect current conditions and past policies. This bill won’t begin to have any effect on the economy for years to come, due to the initial free emissions allowances and extended phase-in of emission caps. Secondly, the cap is not on energy, but only on green-house gas emissions, leaving room for clean, alternative energy sources to displace fossil fuels over time, as well as the potential for development of sequestration or other emission control technologies.

No doubt there are flaws in this bill; an inevitable result of the legislative process. The dire consequences predicted by a number of the above posts, though in highly improbable. The nay-sayers always predict the most dire results. Let’s get real. What will happen if some form of cap & trade bill is finally passed is a shift of investment dollars to greener technologies and away from fossil fuels, which is the whole point. It will not result in a total collapse of our economy. There is little doubt the bill will be highly modified by the Senate in any case.

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By: John http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17531 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:15:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17531 Absolutely NOTHING!

“global warming” a.k.a. “climate change” is a SCAM, and FRAUD.

Many reputable scientists have said as much, but on and on the government and media go, about this LIE.

Just another means to stir up fear and unrest, and exploit for money!!!

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By: me http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17492 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17492 What will energy from natural resources like oil & gas do to your job?

I can rewrite this article with another title and with the same outcome.

Some time from now there will be no “natural resources” no more. What is mankind going to do then? digging on the moon or mars? From the 1970’s on, oil & gas resources are declining, while prices in comparison are increasing. Ofcourse you don’t remember the price level of oil last year, if it didn’t create the current economical crisis, it triggered it for sure.

Is Cap’n Trade a solution? Maybe not, we just don’t know.

My opinion is that we must invest in “green” energy heavily from now on. Green energy in my opinion is not from oil, gas, coal, uranium, or other “natural resource” you can think off. Do you know how much energy you can extract from human leftovers you every day dump in your toilet f.i.? Or from animal dropouts for that matter? That’s substantial, and here and there are already projects started to benefit from that. It’s about the same as you hit your brake in a toyota prius, the energy used to gain speed and ultimately to make you need to hit your brake, is partially rerouted. now that’s some advanced thinking, and they did that thinking about twenty years ago when developing the toyota prius.

Politicians have to come up with things to create incentives, technicians and developers will hopefully do what needs to be done.

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By: wimpy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17491 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:43:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17491 Global Warming – Climate Change – Cap N Tax is a sham. How in the world do we think we can control climate? Since 2001 the climate has been flat. This is about government control. how in the world can congress even vote on this bill without even reading nor understanding what it’s all about.

The bill even states that the technology to even meet it numbers arent even available. Plus it even has a welfare provision that states that you will be compensated if you are laid off because of it. I dont know anyone who can survive on welfare.

This will be a JOBS killa

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By: Chris http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17487 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:20:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17487 To J Fernandes,

“Oil is the worst legacy we will leave our children” as you write on a laptop made from petrochemicals derived from oil or natural gas liquids, drive your volvo, and buy produce that was grown, harvested, and shipped by oil-based fuels. What evidence have you that oil is causing global warming? Satellite data show that global temps have been falling for the past 13 years (since 1997). Global temps today are not that different from 1980. Do the research (search rss global temp data).

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By: James in LA http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17483 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:37:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17483 The Aussies were smart enough to step back from the ledge of enviro insanity and dump their version of crap & trade. Supporters claim this is a jobs bill, the Chosen One says millions of jobs will be created by this. We will see a net loss of jobs as manufacturing flees to countries like Brazil, China & India. This was nothing more than a brazen ploy to gain more control over the country. They already are trying to dictate that you can’t buy a big screen tv because of energy concerns. Crap & trade will only hasten similar restrictions.

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By: Mike Constitution http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17482 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:31:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17482 “Climate change”, “global warming”, or whatever you leftists wish to call it, is a myth, a hoax, and a joke.

It is an excuse for another government power-grab led by the anti-liberty, anti-capitalist, anti-American nutcases that believe dictators can do better than markets.

It is supported by you “Obama voters”, read dimwits, that have no ability to think on your own and believe the propaganda fed you by the Democrat-run teacher’s unions, the Democrat-run media, and the Democrat-run government agencies.

Climate change is not about “saving the planet”, it is about accumulating government power so the extremists on the left, the Democrats, can control the lives of their subjects; you.

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By: emo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/06/26/what-will-the-climate-change-bill-do-to-your-job/#comment-17479 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:04:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4205#comment-17479 “”Whether you believe that climate change is a man-made phenomenon or not, I think everyone realizes that the Earth’s climate is currently on a trend that doesn’t serve to benefit it.””

This is the most absurd statement Ive ever heard. What this poster is saying is that even if climate change (notice no more global warming)is happening naturally, we can and should pass legislation to stop it. The arrogance and stupidity behind that statement is appalling

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