Comments on: The three urban myths of healthcare reform http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: ablur http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-26186 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:52:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-26186 I can’t believe what I am reading here. Nobody seems to have a solid grasp of the problem so the solution has escaped you.
Read some of the following articles:
How to Make Healthcare Cheaper — http://ablursspot.blogspot.com/2007/11/h ow-to-make-health-care-cheaper.html
Understanding the Healthcare Debate — http://ablursspot.blogspot.com/2009/07/u nderstanding-healthcare-debate.html
Watch a simple video that adds to the discussion Here — http://ablursspot.blogspot.com/2009/09/w hat-does-healthcare-really-cost.html

Healthcare is a big issue that needs careful thought and consideration. It also needs to be adaptable and fitting for the user. Government one size fits all approach isn’t going to cut it. Look over all the real issues and then tell your congressmen to to fix what needs fixing.

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By: JanieD http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-24479 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:27:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-24479 Everyday I drive my father out to the nursing home for a visit with my mother. The most direct route to the “home” takes us through an area that is basically a black area. By 10:00 in the morning there are hundreds of men hanging out on street corners, in front of the party stores and car stereo equipment stores. They are healthy men. Another thing I see on Sundays. After church gets out, they walk the elderly black women home, not leaving them on their own. I see a community. It really hurts me and leaves me wondering…what did we do to our African American brothers and sisters? We took them out of one kind of slavery…but couldn’t wait to put them into another. The liberal left, for generations, has forced them into abject poverty, low self worth and have victimized them for votes. They don’t see it because they’re in it. They have healthy bodies and the potential to have healthy minds. They can’t work their physical bodies to the point of falling into peaceful sleep at night because they haven’t used up the energy their body has stored in their muscles. Are their diets full of fats, sugars, salt, as it appears to be? My heart just cries for them. We’ve made them slaves to a system that they can’t get out of and into a culture of victims. How did we let this happen? Did we vote into office people that we trusted only to find out that they only care about $$$$ instead of raising up a Nation of hard workers, family oriented adults, with a standard of values that will ensure success and prosperity…for votes? It will my life’s commitment to raise up my brothers and sisters regardless of their color and give them the vision of self esteem, victory over emotional and economic slavery and to realize that color is not an obstacle to self fulfillment. In God’s eyes we are all weighty, like gold.

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By: IlikeMyRights http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-21268 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:59:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-21268 If i’m making enough of a living for myself that I can spend the extra money on health care for myself and my family that i deem acceptable – who do any of you think you are to say i should share my hard earned piece of pie?? If you are too poor to pay for a primary care insurance, you can qualify for state medicaid. If you’re elderly, you have medicaid. If you get fired, you will have a severance package coverage for a period of time that should allot you the time needed to find a new job and insurance. If you can’t qualify for any of that, you need to re-prioritize.
For anyone to tell me that my next door neighbor should get his diabetes meds paid for by me because he drives to mcdonalds 10 times a day to get 10 meals and can’t lift a finger unless it is carrying food to his trap because he’s ‘poor and helpless ‘, you need to do some serious reconsideration.
I am lucky enough to live in Colorado where I have mountains in my backyard and a very active life style. I rarely get sick. The last major medical event in my life involved a basketball game where my leg was fractured. I went to the ER and… brace yourself… paid for everything myself! I didn’t need a handout. I didn’t whine about how other people should pay my bill for me because I chose to play in an aggressive basketball pick up game.
I am in no way, shape or form responsible for illegal immigrants who don’t even pay taxes. I’m not responsible for those too lazy to get a job, or for those who have lost them. I’m financially strapped as a recently graduated college student – I can hardly afford myself, let alone the medical bills of the rest of America.

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By: Jim http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-20572 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:29:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-20572 I tell people who will listen that when my grandfather was alive and working, there was no health insurance. People paid for their health care from their own pocket. If they did not have enough, charity was abundant. When people died it was a tragedy but not a “moral imperative” that government swoop in and pick up the tab. We’ve grown accustom to others paying our bills and the right we declare to health care is but an economic right.

We pay a lot for “health care” today mostly to extend our lives. The length of our lives should not be determined by the amount of money a society can extract from its citizens. Health care reform is not about health at all, but rather who pays the bills – private companies or the government. In either case, the health of someone goes unchanged. We spend tremendous amounts of money treating diseases, many brought upon ourselves because of lifestyle choices. Spending increasing amounts of money to treat self-inflicted disease seems ludicrous at best.

Most of us frown upon stealing from another regardless of the reason and regardless of the wealth of either individual. When a government does it in the name of reform we seem to go numb.

I have a right to life which includes a right to dispose of the fruits of my labor as I see fit. To deny me this right is to deny me the right to support my life. There is no such thing as ‘partially’ destroying a right. You can not create some new medical “right” (which is an actually a declared economic “right” rather than an unalienable one provided in the Constitution) without negating the right to property, and thus the right to life. This is true of any so called economic ‘right.’ If someone receives without working, then someone has worked without receiving. If the “work without receiving” was not voluntary, that man or woman is a slave. This is wrong and needs to be called wrong for the right reasons. It is to bleed dry the life from the healthy and productive in the name of fighting disease. This is true in all economic endeavors that place the so called interests of group or “society” above the actual, self evident, rights of the individual. It is especially ugly to do so in the name of health.

The government has no more business in the health care insurance arena then it does in running banks or car companies. We often forget the words of our founding fathers. James Madison said for example:

“Government is instituted to protect property of every sort…. This being the end of government, that alone is not a just government,…nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest.”

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By: Roy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-19946 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:10:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-19946 This raises the question I had when Bill Clinton arrogantly declared that 16 percent of GDP (or maybe it was 17 percent then) was too much to spend on healthcare. Who is he to tell me how much of my own money I can spend for any given purpose? Obama should be made to answer the same question.

I’m 70 years old and until this year when I needed my Medicare “A”, no tax payer has ever spent a dime on me except when I was on active duty in the Army. Meanwhile, I keep contributing to Medicare “A” and “B” for others and when I finally need part “B”, I’ll be very angry if the promise is broken.

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By: Moose http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-19504 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:08:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-19504 Trying to convince people that spending 3 times more on healthcare then 50 years ago is a good thing, just shows scum like this author would sell his own mothers organs if the profit was big enough.

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By: Samuel http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-19494 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:33:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-19494 I live in Canada, our system is great, anything bad you have ever heard about it is a lie.

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By: Peter Mitchell http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-19488 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:56:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-19488 America: A public health system for all is a human right if you are middle or upper class americans why worry you can opt out and go private its still about choice for you. But if your lower class or poverty stricken you need this system as its the only real healthcare for you. I am an Australian and you are falling beind the rest of the world do whats right look after your poor & disabled that is their right from those who have much to those who have not.
Charity can be hard to find certainty is an absolute for the poor, funny how its the rich who are against this the most they dont need to worry or is it a selfish greed not to pay more taxes to help their brothers in need.

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By: tom Lennox http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-19429 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:11:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-19429 Nonsense:
1/Each country has affective factors that could as easily be summoned in using this argument.
2/Remove the illegal immigrants and you STILL have too many Americans without healthcare insurance.
3/Fine, spend it on docs and the third homes of the drug company VPs instead of tv’s IF you have the money.

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By: DanO http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/20/the-three-urban-myths-of-healthcare-reform/#comment-19263 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:14:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=4574#comment-19263 When did health insurance pricing get so stupidly expensive? Exit the non profit BC/BS system educators formed so that they could get a health benefit that would not break the municipal budget. It was so wildly successful that it inevitably went to the for profit sector. Less than 10 years down the road (from the change) schools are trying to cut insurance benefits to families. So now what? Single payer SSI run healthcare.
I like it.

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