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		<title>By: macelf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-7/#comment-32077</link>
		<dc:creator>macelf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growing up in Los Alamos in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s, it was a rite-of-passage for high-schoolers to drive up into the mountains to get ripped at keg parties. That scared me a lot, since I also heard about the accidents and deaths. The pot-alcohol combination was clearly detrimental, too. I&#039;m not sure I would agree that people would drink less if Pot were legal - perhaps - but with such societal vilification of the herb, and widespread acceptance of alcohol, I remember a lot of my peers who just opted for passing out, leaving the &#039;stoners&#039; to run around nature getting a cardiovascular workout while pondering the meaning of things. Of course, it took real guts to seek out such an alternative to alcohol, because it meant one had to acquire pot by illegal means, rendering one paranoid and distracted. This illicit environment created it&#039;s own set of problems, such as what I also witnessed, among them the behavior of those who used marijuana in excess, or were attracted in an anti-authoritarian way to the underground culture that arose (in large part, a consequence of pot&#039;s prohibition). I admire folks like Bernd who are discussing this openly.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in Los Alamos in the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s, it was a rite-of-passage for high-schoolers to drive up into the mountains to get ripped at keg parties. That scared me a lot, since I also heard about the accidents and deaths. The pot-alcohol combination was clearly detrimental, too. I&#8217;m not sure I would agree that people would drink less if Pot were legal &#8211; perhaps &#8211; but with such societal vilification of the herb, and widespread acceptance of alcohol, I remember a lot of my peers who just opted for passing out, leaving the &#8216;stoners&#8217; to run around nature getting a cardiovascular workout while pondering the meaning of things. Of course, it took real guts to seek out such an alternative to alcohol, because it meant one had to acquire pot by illegal means, rendering one paranoid and distracted. This illicit environment created it&#8217;s own set of problems, such as what I also witnessed, among them the behavior of those who used marijuana in excess, or were attracted in an anti-authoritarian way to the underground culture that arose (in large part, a consequence of pot&#8217;s prohibition). I admire folks like Bernd who are discussing this openly.  </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-24332</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good afternoon fellow bloggers. Very interesting piece of info I&#039;d like to share with you guys that I just learned from Norml.com. Now hear this approximately 98 percent of cannabis destroyed or taken by the D.E.A is actually ditch weed or what stoners refer to as headache weed, because the THC content is next to nothing and will never get you high. It&#039;s absolutely hilarious to know that we the tax payers spend billions every year for overpaid landscapers. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good afternoon fellow bloggers. Very interesting piece of info I&#8217;d like to share with you guys that I just learned from Norml.com. Now hear this approximately 98 percent of cannabis destroyed or taken by the D.E.A is actually ditch weed or what stoners refer to as headache weed, because the THC content is next to nothing and will never get you high. It&#8217;s absolutely hilarious to know that we the tax payers spend billions every year for overpaid landscapers. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-23967</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcohol is destructive, and very addictive.  Marijuana is neither,,and could bring more revenue than keeping it illegal.  The only problem is, that, the US government is a bunch of alcoholics. They would rather make money with DUI&#039;s and busts than allow adults to choose a safer alternative to drinking,,and therfore causing no ill effects in public.  Allow me to buy marijuana , and smoke it in my home. I am happy. While holding down a job and performing well. Make me an alcoholic,,and who knows what havoc I may cause,,including problems holding a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcohol is destructive, and very addictive.  Marijuana is neither,,and could bring more revenue than keeping it illegal.  The only problem is, that, the US government is a bunch of alcoholics. They would rather make money with DUI&#8217;s and busts than allow adults to choose a safer alternative to drinking,,and therfore causing no ill effects in public.  Allow me to buy marijuana , and smoke it in my home. I am happy. While holding down a job and performing well. Make me an alcoholic,,and who knows what havoc I may cause,,including problems holding a job.</p>
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		<title>By: maxwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-22968</link>
		<dc:creator>maxwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Check out tobackgo industry contributions to anti-cannabis candidates (especially, since the 1960&#039;s, Republicans) and figure out who the enemy of legalization really is.  Also bear in mind that for every dollar they contribute directly, the cigarette companies spend many dollars on hiring well dressed, well-groomed, well-spoken attractive young bodies to contact the legislators and schmooze with their staff, building up empathy and guilt over anything threatening to the hot burning overdose nicotine genocide profit margi

2. &quot;Big Alcohol is the Running Dog of Big 2Wackgo.&quot;  Many nicotine addictions result from a bout or two of binge drinking, followed by a need to self-medicate off a hangover and study for the big test.  Many youngsters after a party, realizing they need to sober up and drive the car home somehow, try &quot;a cigarette or two&quot;.

3.  As Pres. Obama said when he quit cigarette smoking in 2007, he was one of over half the addicts who were already hooked before being of legal age to purchase the product.  What would happen if cannabis were not only legal but just as cheap as tobacco for teenagers on a limited bodget?  The high black market prices caused by illegality are the last prop holding up the tottering nicotine empire.

4.  &quot;Big pHARMa feeds of Big 2Wackgo and both fear cannabis.&quot;  If the wise practice of many cannabis users (vaporizer, long-stemmed one-hitters) spilled over into the nicotine addict population, many tobacco users might keep smoking but use 1/28 as much product the rest of their lives.  This could cause a drastic decline in smoking-related illnesses which feed the demand for blood pressure meds, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Check out tobackgo industry contributions to anti-cannabis candidates (especially, since the 1960&#8242;s, Republicans) and figure out who the enemy of legalization really is.  Also bear in mind that for every dollar they contribute directly, the cigarette companies spend many dollars on hiring well dressed, well-groomed, well-spoken attractive young bodies to contact the legislators and schmooze with their staff, building up empathy and guilt over anything threatening to the hot burning overdose nicotine genocide profit margi</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Big Alcohol is the Running Dog of Big 2Wackgo.&#8221;  Many nicotine addictions result from a bout or two of binge drinking, followed by a need to self-medicate off a hangover and study for the big test.  Many youngsters after a party, realizing they need to sober up and drive the car home somehow, try &#8220;a cigarette or two&#8221;.</p>
<p>3.  As Pres. Obama said when he quit cigarette smoking in 2007, he was one of over half the addicts who were already hooked before being of legal age to purchase the product.  What would happen if cannabis were not only legal but just as cheap as tobacco for teenagers on a limited bodget?  The high black market prices caused by illegality are the last prop holding up the tottering nicotine empire.</p>
<p>4.  &#8220;Big pHARMa feeds of Big 2Wackgo and both fear cannabis.&#8221;  If the wise practice of many cannabis users (vaporizer, long-stemmed one-hitters) spilled over into the nicotine addict population, many tobacco users might keep smoking but use 1/28 as much product the rest of their lives.  This could cause a drastic decline in smoking-related illnesses which feed the demand for blood pressure meds, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-21367</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps long over due term limits for our legislators would be helpful in moving necessary change forward.  Campaign contributions need reform as well. What we have now is reprentation by benifaction rather than actual representation.

The manner in which the president came into the amazing dollars for his election was by recieving small numbers of dollars from large numbers of people via the internet. Hopefully this will be the model going forward placing special interests, who consider influencing legislators with campaign contributions standard operating proceedure, in a less advantaged position.

The problem for our legislators at the present time is that in order to legalize marijuana or for that matter all drugs, even if it could be shown to have a net benefit to society, is explaining to his or her benefactors why they would be contemplating changing anything at all.  They made possible the election of their choosen legislators so that they might control the pace and direction of change.  Legislators are not put in office by special interests to do any origional thinking unless instructed to do so.

If you want to nearly have a heart attack learning about the war on drugs and what a complete and total disaster it has been and continues to be - read:  Judge James P. Gray&#039;s book entitled &quot;Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed and What We Can Do About It.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps long over due term limits for our legislators would be helpful in moving necessary change forward.  Campaign contributions need reform as well. What we have now is reprentation by benifaction rather than actual representation.</p>
<p>The manner in which the president came into the amazing dollars for his election was by recieving small numbers of dollars from large numbers of people via the internet. Hopefully this will be the model going forward placing special interests, who consider influencing legislators with campaign contributions standard operating proceedure, in a less advantaged position.</p>
<p>The problem for our legislators at the present time is that in order to legalize marijuana or for that matter all drugs, even if it could be shown to have a net benefit to society, is explaining to his or her benefactors why they would be contemplating changing anything at all.  They made possible the election of their choosen legislators so that they might control the pace and direction of change.  Legislators are not put in office by special interests to do any origional thinking unless instructed to do so.</p>
<p>If you want to nearly have a heart attack learning about the war on drugs and what a complete and total disaster it has been and continues to be &#8211; read:  Judge James P. Gray&#8217;s book entitled &#8220;Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed and What We Can Do About It.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-21270</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannabis can also help with anger management issues, whereas alcohol only promotes violent behaviour(as mentioned countless times before). This is written from personal experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannabis can also help with anger management issues, whereas alcohol only promotes violent behaviour(as mentioned countless times before). This is written from personal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-21264</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who is claiming that legalizing cannabis would have no benefit to society are ignorant of the facts and wrong. Aside from the fact that they&#039;ve recently discovered cannabanoids that aided in treating prostate cancer in the UK(we can&#039;t research in the US due to cannabis being a schedule 1 narcotic-which is rediculous), there is no legal distinction from cannabis and hemp, so legalizing would allow for textile research, fuel, and innumerable other products that promote a more sustainable form of existence in this society. That sure sounds like a benefit to me. Educate yourselves, and maybe you&#039;ll START caring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who is claiming that legalizing cannabis would have no benefit to society are ignorant of the facts and wrong. Aside from the fact that they&#8217;ve recently discovered cannabanoids that aided in treating prostate cancer in the UK(we can&#8217;t research in the US due to cannabis being a schedule 1 narcotic-which is rediculous), there is no legal distinction from cannabis and hemp, so legalizing would allow for textile research, fuel, and innumerable other products that promote a more sustainable form of existence in this society. That sure sounds like a benefit to me. Educate yourselves, and maybe you&#8217;ll START caring.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-21263</link>
		<dc:creator>Marla Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course pot should be legalized, but I doubt it will be.  It is far too valuable a cash cow for law enforcement,  prisons, and lawyers.  And, it&#039;s easy to grow your own, which means the government would have a hard time selling and taxing it. Should it be legalized, I know I&#039;d have a couple plants in a grow room for personal consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course pot should be legalized, but I doubt it will be.  It is far too valuable a cash cow for law enforcement,  prisons, and lawyers.  And, it&#8217;s easy to grow your own, which means the government would have a hard time selling and taxing it. Should it be legalized, I know I&#8217;d have a couple plants in a grow room for personal consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-21262</link>
		<dc:creator>Marla Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I firmly believe that alcohol is more harmful than pot.  Drunks can be violent.  The only thing I&#039;ve seen a stoned person attack is a pizza!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I firmly believe that alcohol is more harmful than pot.  Drunks can be violent.  The only thing I&#8217;ve seen a stoned person attack is a pizza!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/23/driven-to-drink-by-marijuana-laws/comment-page-6/#comment-21261</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very sad time for our country...which prayer do you think God listen too given the two choices?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very sad time for our country&#8230;which prayer do you think God listen too given the two choices?</p>
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