Comments on: “Lawless hordes” and the U.S.-Mexico border http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Ned http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25857 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:24:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25857 I believe, Cd. Juarez has become a horrid place and it is impossible to ignore now for the common tourist. Once upon a time, it’s violence could be called to certain areas. Now, shops are closed up and the most heinous violence occurs, extortion, racketeering, it is intolerable now though I have sympathy with many of the good residents there. It’s only gotten really, really bad in the last 5 years. Only a few years ago, I do think, the city could be taken in as an enjoyable little trip.

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By: wrzne http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25704 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:49:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25704 Kris,

We have tried to cut the demand for years and it doesn’t work,”insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” (Albert Einstein) Its time to take a different approach, we have attempted to cut demand for decades and the problem has only gotten worse!

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By: Kris http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25702 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:19:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25702 So as a former member of the military and having worked with law enforcement that has worked in the private sector not in law enforcement but for a company that relocated to Juarez Mexico from the USA I find all these arguments funny and misinformed. The majority of the money that the cartels make are from hard drugs not MJ.
Yes the comments about supply and demand is correct. If people did not do drugs there would be no cartels. Is Juarez violent..Yes it is but i spent a lot of time there both for work and pleasure. Never once did i feel threatend. Is there places in Juarezi would not go to yes there is but i have traveled all over the world and there is plenty of places that are just as bad.
The solution….Cut the demand and leave the border security to the professionals….Case and point..El Paso.
They have a great law enforcement and they are one of the safest cities in the US.
If you did not shoot up or toke up or snort up the drugs would no longer be a problem and the cartels would go broke.

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By: B. Free http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25700 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:01:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25700 MJ, harmful? Nothing is harmless. The argument over its harm is not relevant. Society allows harmful behavior all the time; from sky diving to motorcycle riding to eating at McDonalds. The drug companies put out drugs that kill more people in 6 months than MJ has in its history and what was this drug used for? To keep an erection. It was called Viagra. Not only did it stay on the market now there are many other like drugs on the market and yes they are still killing people. More people die each year from the proper use of prescription drugs than from illegal drugs. And you can go and compare the FBI numbers to the CDC ones if you wish. So, why is MJ illegal? Maybe a history lesson is in order to those that think is should be. It is illegal because of money. It is the most popular drug in the US. It accounts for over 80% of all illegal drug use. That is a lot of money. Add to that the amount of money provided by the US government for interdiction and you got people on both sides of the law making a lot of money. There is no other reason for MJ to be illegal except the simple fact that it makes a lot of money for a lot of people. All of you prohibitionist remember that this is supposed to be the “Land of the Free”. No where in the Constitution does it give the federal or state governments the authority to outlaw MJ. Once upon a time they tried to outlaw alcohol and it required a constitutional amendment which was repealed if you by chance actually opened a history book in high school. The outlawing of MJ is an abuse of government power for profit. It is obvious that if it was legal both external and internal profits would drop dramatically. That would dry up income in many states. Let’s face it when the governor of Kentucky admits it is there largest cash crop it is obvious who is making the money. Farmers in Ohio get their farm out of debt by planting MJ along with their corn and I doubt it is just in Ohio. However, I have yet to hear a farmer want to keep MJ illegal just because it can assist them in making ends meet. No, it is the underworld of this nation and foreign nations that gives money to organizations who lobby to keep our nation “drug free”. These organizations are know as the Prohibitionists who lack a clear understanding of history or our Constitution yet believe they are saving people. PT Barnum had a saying “there is a sucker born everyday and two to take him”. There is even an organization of police officers who are trying to decriminalize MJ yet these prohibitionists rally against our Nation’s freedoms, economic logic, social logic, and moral logic just because they know it is wrong. In their minds a Free Country has only those freedoms they think are right regardless of what the Constitution says or what the majority of this nation believes. This is why state after state is trying to reverse this insanity be getting these issues onto ballots and why the Prohibitionists are doing everything they can to prevent these issues from making it to the ballot. They fear they will lose to the popular opinion. Even though this was never put to a vote in the beginning. Even though the Supreme Court will not hear any case on the Constitutionality of the outlawing of MJ. States are winning. Every time there is a vote more states liberalize their MJ laws. Cities are removing their laws or like Denver they have made MJ busts the lowest priority. It is a battle against ignorance and the war is progressing in the favor of legalization. Is MJ harmful…what a red herring!

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By: Steven http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25630 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:06:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25630 Marijuana should most certainly be decriminalized but it is not the drug coming through the border checkpoints. We need to decriminalize cocaine and heroin as well, and provide it at minimal cost to addicts who are intent on ending their addiction. No huge profits and the cartels will need to find other ways to make money. Take away the profits and there is no incentive to expand markets. Lets face it, all our efforts to criminalize drug use have not reduced the supply or demand simply because the effect has been to keep prices and thus profits high. Only by taking the profit out of drugs will the supply begin to decline. The cartels are only in it for the money. But the market model will get ugly before it brightens.

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By: Whoa http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25575 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:16:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25575 “Countless studies of proven it’s as harmless as coffee with little or no social, physical and psychological side effects.”

Wow. News to me. Care to name these countless studies?

Links or it didn’t happen.

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By: GreyGhost http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25482 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:09:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25482 It’s not pot they’re fighting over you pinheads…..and Alcohol and Tobacco should be just as illegal as pot.

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By: Dutch http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25385 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:31:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25385 How cannabis hasn’t been legalised in the U.S goes to show the social hypocrisy of the American administration.

Alcohol, tobacco good. Cannabis bad?

Either they don’t read and/or are very misinformed about cannabis as a plant and it’s numerous uses.

Countless studies of proven it’s as harmless as coffee with little or no social, physical and psychological side effects.

Substance abuse is a whole other matter.

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By: elly http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25379 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:36:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25379 I don’t get it. How is it that booze is so accepted in main stream society? A n d, why not MJ? Oh, MJ smokers are violent, they want to fight, they stumble all over themselves, they get behind the wheel and have head-ons, they spend their whole Friday paycheck on MJ. W H A T E V E R Change is a component of life. Stop resisting. Legalize MJ. Solve some festering problems.

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By: Strangewalk http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/10/08/lawless-hordes-and-the-us-mexico-border/#comment-25307 Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:18:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5499#comment-25307 “We have to try something, and if it doesn’t work, we have to try something else”–FDR. Yes, decriminalize dope, all of it, just like booze. What has been tried for the past 20 years doesn’t work.

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