Comments on: War and Peace, by Barack Obama http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Anon86 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-28031 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:00:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-28031 The concept of corporate entities was introduced back in the roman ages and has been with us since then.

It is as old and solid a principle of law as any other you could care to name. Almost as old as the concept of legal rights or private property rights. And certainly older then very recent legal concepts such as international human rights.

And even if we removed corporate citizenship, it wouldn’t have any effect on the arms industry.

Corporations are individuals. People are individuals. Corporations can manufacture weapons for governments. People can manufacture weapons for governments.

The situation would be exactly the same. The only distinction would be whether people manufacture and sell weapons as a corporation or a partnership. The legality remains the same.

So if there was as you say, a ‘military industrial complex’ that exists, then the difference between corporate and partnership would mean very little.

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By: Benny_Acosta http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-28004 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:16:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-28004 An argument was made to me that term limits would remove a citizen’s freedom to vote for a candidate that has been a consistently good performer.

If a public servant is doing a good job and wishes to continue serving the people, then that person should be free to serve, and the voter should be free to vote.

Although I do think my argument had some good points to it, I can’t argue with the logic. Limiting a freedom such as voting for one’s preferred candidate, is not the way to ensure the very freedom to vote.

So I turn away from calling for term limits in the legislature. There does remain the subject of corporate citizenship however, and there has been no sound reason for it to continue. It was a bad idea when it was first introduced, and it’s a bad idea now. Citizens are individual people. Businesses and other groups are made up of people. And the law of our land already protects our people.

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By: Benny_Acosta http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27941 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:13:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27941 Without corporate citizenship it would be near impossible to have a military/industrial complex. It forces personal accountability by removing the vale of false citizenship granted to the amorphous identity of a corporate name.

If reasonably short term limits are imposed on elected representatives, it becomes impossible to build a military industrial complex. Term limits force out old thinking and replaces it with ideas that meet the needs of the times. It also opens the opportunity of service to a much broader pool of talent.

Then war machines can be a thing of the past. And wisdom could establish its place in guiding the affairs of human beings.

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By: citizenbfk http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27932 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:21:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27932 Very thoughtful article and comments. All I can offer is my personal response to the news: it was sad. But also followed by a feeling like, “well, the boss has made a decision; I don’t like it; Here we go.”

I’d point out this “border,” between Pakistan and Afghanistan is another one of the ‘divide and conquer,’ creations of Western colonialism, as they gleefully carved up the world into little pieces for themselves.

It does seem like war has become part of American business and steps need to be taken to stop that. How?

Well….I put idea on on my site and in political forums. We all can do the same.

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By: Komment http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27931 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:37:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27931 Perhaps the president should re-name himself, to better reflect his bellicose actions: George W.Obama.

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By: terets http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27916 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:53:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27916 The key here is that success depends on the Afgans. If they want their country to change, then they will be the key to success. If they prefer corruption and war, then this mission is doomed to failure. I wish I knew what the Afgans were thinking!

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By: Benny_Acosta http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27909 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:05:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27909 Obama’s heart is in the right place. He feels some responsibility to the people of Afghanistan and so he wants to create some breathing room for the government to establish itself and provide for its own security.

Unfortunately I don’t agree. The government in that country is corrupt. There doesn’t seem to be very much action taken on the part of the Karzai government to remove the corrupt elements from government.

Then again, that culture has a different understanding of what the rule of law means. We should not be spilling any more American blood. We do not occupy land. We will not take anything away from that country that is of benefit to our society. All we have done is to kill and destroy in the hopes that the current government can clean up and establish itself.

This is not a worthy cause. Bin-Laden is not even on the agenda. And more people have been killed under the guise of pursuing him than were killed in the attacks. War is not the answer. More troops will only end in more death on both sides.

Those fighters have nothing to loose. Their home has been decimated. Our warriors have families and homes to come back to. It’s not worth it to continue fighting. There are better ways to establish lasting peace and we need to explore those ways.

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By: Richard Baum http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27906 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:17:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27906 Interesting piece

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By: Anon86 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27895 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:17:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27895 “You can’t build a reputation on what you are going to do.”
-Henry Ford

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By: drewbie http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/03/war-and-peace-by-barack-obama/#comment-27874 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:30:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=5887#comment-27874 The only way to resolve the contradiction is for the committee who selected Obama to admit they were way too premature.

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