Comments on: Why we must profile airline passengers http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Lancewood http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28408 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:29:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28408 Profiling should be no different than any medical scan. Terrorism has many of the same traits as a disease, in this case a disease of civilization. Preventing, finding, and removing these infectious cells can be similar to doing it with real cells. We don’t cat-scan or x-ray everyone, just those with symptoms.

Look at all the countries that quickly banned imports from countries that reported Mad Cow disease, Swine flu, and Bird flu, for example. Russia and China instantly began quarantining travelers with any symptoms, even those that sat within 10 feet of anyone with symptoms. They had fever scanners set up. Russia immediately banned imports of pigs from the U.S. and Mexico. The list goes on. The point is that diseases scare the hell out of people, and they often overreact. But the result is that the originating country, where the disease started, is the one put under tremendous pressure to deal with the problem, and then prove to the world they are OK. The burden shifted to them, not the importing country.

The same logic should, and eventually will prevail with terrorists, which are spawned, bred, trained, educated, and knowingly allowed to walk proudly in their country of origin. If they succeed, they become martyrs. Those countries should be treated like intentional “carriers” and “breeding grounds” for this new disease. It should become the responsibility for those country’s leaders – national, tribal, or family – to find and remove this problem for the survival of their own country. The cost should be shifted to them.

Any country that condones terrorism in any way, should be blacklisted and their travelers put automatically into a separate screening process. Besides all of the other logical clues for screening, mostly physical, national origin should therefore be key. Hate to say it, but the U.K. has allowed itself to also become a breeding ground for terrorists. We know the terms “Londonistan” and “Eurabia.” In any case, it’s better to implement tough profiling now as a security measure instead of waiting until we are hit with a full lockdown, when the problem becomes an overreaction, harder to fix, and economically much more costly.

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By: nighttosh http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28399 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:27:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28399 Haleluhyia. Let us wake up to the risks that are right in our daily lives. Most often, we react to our shortcomings and this in itself is failure.It is high time we thought outside the box as that is the only way we can match the present terrorist

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By: asomaning http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28372 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:44:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28372 Profiling to is the best way to make the world a better place for right thinking people ti live in

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By: echosierrapj http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28307 Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:35:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28307 I totally agree with Mr. Baum. We need the best tools possible to keep aviation safe. And profiling is one.
However, even given the best tools, if people are not well trained and then coached adequately in their use, it becomes, unfortunately, the weakest link in the chain.
The proper application of the profiling tool also requires very good judgment capacities and an excellent sense of perception. So they also need to be selected with ultimate care as well as be well trained.
Another question would be how do we make sure that the standards are maintained at a high enough level throughout the aviation web-like security net?

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By: FlorentW http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28291 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:43:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28291 I totally agree with the implementation of Profiling at major airports. Rather than spending millions of $$ on new technology at every point of entry, we should have a ‘regular’ check point equipped with at least 1 advanced explosive detection system. Rather than using it on every passenger, profiling will allow for a selected few to undergo a more thorough search.
The money we save on expensive technology could then be spent on better educated, better paid screeners.
We need to point out that not only profiling helps pinpoint a potential terrorist, but so far it has also been used to highlight other potential threats like drug violations, visa forgery, and smuggling of some sort.
The signs and non verbal clues given away by a criminal or unruly passenger are actually very similar to an individual ready to carry out an attack on civil aviation.
Let’s use this and let’s not hassle the vast majority of honest passengers…

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By: raventos http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28290 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:08:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28290 in principal i agree with philip but profiling is not the only security measure. responsible authorities and airlines must find an appropriate mix of screening and profiling. the latest body scanner is certainly a must. a full secondary screening is not a solution. it can be interpreted that one does not trust the first screening. as long as humans are involved there will be always errors. racial issues in my opinion have no space in security. we must leavethe profiling to absolute professionals well trained and experienced and not to regular screeners that earn a very low wage.

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By: alscottie http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28288 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:46:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28288 Profiling is essential, but obtaining international political co-operation to achieve it is the challenge. Listening to the Nigerian politicians “washing their hands” of any responsibilty of the latest mis-guided brainwashed islamic fundamentalist youngster is typical.
Targetting Yemen and other failed States that are the breeding grounds of terrorism is top priority, more professional and better paid/motivated security staff at the front line is well overdue.

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By: BCN http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28285 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:54:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28285 I agree with Mr.Baum’s opinions mentioned above.
Profiling is identifying “INTENT” of a person through behavioural analysis.
Profilers should be looking for a passenger who is behaving oddly or whose circumstances are particularly different from the expected NORM.
May I ask,is it normal for a LAGOS transit passanger to travel to USA on Christmas for the weeks !!! with NO checked baggage?
A trained person who is doing the profiling would have noticed the oddness of such passenger and direct him/her for more technological scanners to go through a more detailed examination.This is common sense.What we see in this incident, is the lack of it.
Profiling when used together with technology will strengthen the security.
It is our basic right to travel from point A to point B ALIVE.

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By: ET1 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28281 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:38:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28281 Common sense; appears to be sadly lacking!
One can only conclude that there are socio-economic- religious reasons for this current condition.

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By: BCN http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/28/why-we-must-profile-airline-passengers/#comment-28279 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:35:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6088#comment-28279 I totally agree with what Mr.Baum has mentioned about profiling.
It is a technique used to identify the “INTENT” through behavioral analysis NOT ethnic origins.
The profiler should be looking for the people behaving oddly or whose circumstances are different from the expected norm…
Is it normal for a transit passenger who is travelling on Christmas for two weeks !!! with no suit case checked ?
Not questioning this could only be a lack of Common sense…
How many incidents will it take for us to see that screeners fail to detect every potential threat?
It is our basic right to travel from point A to point B ALIVE!!!
I ,as a frequent passenger, would be happy to see profiling along with screening or any other technology that will provide extra security.

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