Comments on: American intelligence and fortune-telling http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: saggyboobs http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-29205 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:15:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-29205 I think the US Government could employ Madame Zora (www.TheWhatBox.com) for their fortune telling needs!

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By: Americanone1 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28435 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:17:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28435 Reading what the Israeli citizen with 19 years of service in the Israeli Army giving advice to the Americans to take on Iran is a selfserving advice that would cause great deal of pain and sufferings on all people including the people of Israel, most of the world problems that the American are facing today are a direct result of being supportive of the state of Israel. Iraq was a planned and and excecuted war to protect Israel, Bush met with sharoon 12 times in the course of a few month to lay down the Israeli plan to invade Iraq. Now they are trying to get us involved in Iran, would that really bring peace to Israel?, I doubt it. Israel must quit the policy of incitement through their representatives in the American political systems to gain a Military,financial and political supports paid for by the American Taxpayers. Americans must understand that Israeli Politics are the cause of the American Problems.

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By: rhoops http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28432 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:46:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28432 Successful military Intelligence relies on two aspects: firstly recognising and understanding the specific nature of the immediate ‘fog of war’, and secondly: constructing a responsive system to it.
Criticising the US military without recognising the former, indicates poor journalism, and is usually a political statement ie of worthless value in analysis.
The US military is famous for its inability to embrace ‘humint’ (human intelligence) and for its over reliance upon distant information. Why?
The army is a large corporate style management organisation, this is structurally the antithesis for rapid information movement.
I suspect also the American open culture does not provide a decent cradle for the devious and underhand methods traditionally associated with institutional intelligence gathering.
As the above commentator notes the US needs to outsource some of its methods. Pass intelligence over to the UK or Israel… actually probably not Israel, they don’t handle mutual aid with rubes too well!

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By: igiveup http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28426 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:07:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28426 Among the other problems, dot-connecting seems to be too slow. I suspect that too much of it is being done manually. More should be relegated to computerized pattern-finding and -matching programs. It is essential that the 16 (?) agencies work off a common database. Fire those people who cannot make this happen and replace them with people who can make it happen.

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By: Avraham http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28418 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:28:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28418 Hi, I have a little military-intelligence experience thanks to 19 years in the Israeli army. I am always puzzled at the US lack of knowledge of the ennemy.
This general cultural blindness brings often the USA to overreact
1) Who is the real ennemy ?
2) Where is the ennemy ?
3) What are the aims and the means of the ennemy , its timetable ?
Once the USA will have made up their minds they will be – maybe – able to act with more finesse…
1)Al-Qaeda is no doubt very dangerous but you don’t crush a snake with a sledgehammer. Al Qaeda moves around the globe like a snake so it ‘ s plain stupid to bring a sledgehammer ( The US Afghan corp ) to crush it
Instead the USA should act by proxies ( The Pakistan army and some afghan tribal leaders who are anti Al Quaeda ) The US have a good financial lever over Pakistan and a strategic one by their alliance with India but until now none of those levers has been really exercised . So the presence of 80000 ? US troops is a total waste since you do not control such a vast territory with a midget army . Either you pour 1 Million soldiers or you choose the ” Finesse ” of a war by proxies .
2) So the real ennemy is much more real and evident than the elusive Qaeda. It has a name, a flag, a state , an army , an economy and it is the real ennmey since it arms, finance, encourage anti-western terrorism all over the world and will soon achieve nukes WITH the WILL to USE it – Now guess who ??? IRAN . But Iran is clever enough to wage war by proxies for the moment.( Hamas Hezbollah etc..)
The USA reactions towards Iran has been inept , weak , and shows a total neglect towards the contries facing the iranian threat ( Saudi Arabia Israel Egypt Jordan Irak)and the iranian population crished by a fanatic regime.
3)The timetable , objectives and means of Iran are a thousand times more dangerous that those of Al Qaeda .
Armed with nukes and ballistic missiles Europe will soon be under the threat .The oil flow fromSaudi arabia , emirates, Irak will be disrupted . And recent history prove Europe has no nerves to confront or engage Iran. By engaging elusive and secondary ennemies the US and their allies are showing miopy , weakness, wasting time , energies , allies .
So I think something is rotten in the Danish realm,( Washington D.C ) at a much higher level than the powerless intelligence operators in Afghanistan. The US policy of the last 20 years in the MidEast looks like a blinded King-Kong pounding his chest who want s to be looked as a strong character but does everything either wrong or to avoid confronting the real ennemy.

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By: dragonshound http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28417 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:05:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28417 Who is accountable? The American people, so complacent in their perceived domination of the world will wake up one day to a world that is more concerned with water shortages and diminishing food supplies than Facebook and American Idol.

The fact is your average American doesn’t care, that is until they are faced with tragedy on their doorstep. It is evident in who sits in the seats of Congress and Senate. These ego jockeys with their 40 and 50 year history as representatives and senators are more interested in hearing themselves bitch about the other party than lending any momentum for real change as suggested by our leaders on the front lines. They will continue to blindly throw money at the issue and appoint their brother’s in law and friends to positions in the great money grab known as Homeland Security.

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By: pcasinelli http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28411 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:33:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28411 Obama is taking credit for the lapses in recent news. This is a huge mistake. If we don’t hold those at fault accountable then the same mistakes will continue to occur.

This article sums this up well: http://www.philosoguy.com/84/american-in telligence-problems/

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By: HBC http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/01/07/american-intelligence-and-fortune-telling/#comment-28405 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:45:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6163#comment-28405 On the one hand, we’re supposed to believe in the ongoing establishment rigamarole of war, counter-terror, national security et al. seriously enough to issue sheaves of blank checks in perpetual subsidy of their heavy-handed efforts, lending full credence to their dismal Backwater world view.

And yet, we’re supposed to empathize with them every time they screw up, which as it turns out is a daily ritual for them, with deadly consequences.

Fortune tellers, on the other hand, have a relatively pristine success rate.

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