Comments on: Goodbye America, Hello China? Think again http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Osomec http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29374 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:07:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29374 The comparison with Japan is a tired old chestnut. Japan has less than half the population of the U.S. while China has more than four times the population of the U.S. China has serious problems, but so has America. America can remain the leading nation, but only by working hard and smart, so your advice to “relax” is absurd. Anyway, my money is on India to be the leading nation in a hundred years time.

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By: Wittau http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29372 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:22:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29372 Relax? I’m not sure how the “defence” budget of the USA can be sold to a “relaxed” constituency, surely that won’t happen.
I find your comparison of China with Japan simply implausible. China’s future strength and long term growth prospects will be possible because of its huge domestic market, exports will rapidly diminish in importance and as a percentage of its overall economy, something the west actively seeks. The other obvious difference is China is able to defend itself, unlike Japan, from intimidation by anyone, though I see no reason for that to be misconstrued as “military ambition” I thought that was called a defence capability or is that just for nominated countries
As for China’s future developement, I suggest you check the ethnic breakdown of students in the top universities of the USA and Europe, you may be surprised. They can do more than plant rice and fix together the components of western technology, but I agree there’s no need to get your knickers in a twist about it. Suddenly I have the urge to read the Monroe Doctrine, not sure why.

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By: myotherme http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29363 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:10:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29363 It is America and its governments who have helped China rise to glory and unprecedented power? Why all this amazement? Don’t US and British voters know that multinationals have been running their fates, now that the markets in the West have nothing more to give, hey presto time to cream the East (Japan exluded, that’s been spent), I ve been to Japan by the way, China will look as bad as that once the greed crazies are finished with it, and all the money and taste will stay in the Switzerlands and Sweden’s of this world… the Chinese have not woken up to the unsustainability of their model, their collapse is about 10 years away.

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By: Pete_Murphy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29356 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:28:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29356 This is off-base on a couple of levels. First of all, say what you want about Japan’s economy, but they’re still killing the U.S. in trade, with a trade surplus in manufactured goods with the U.S. that, in per capita terms, dwarfs that of China. If China ever even comes close to Japan, it’ll spell doom for America’s economy.

Secondly, Japan spurns nuclear weapons and is a basically pacifist nation. China, on the other hand, has nuclear weapons and big military ambitions.

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By: doctorjay317 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29355 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:43:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29355 kc10man states”Shanghai selling per square meter nearly double that of Manhattan”. Can I ask where the statistics are from? Looks like there might be some miscalculation with the floor area basis or the exchange rate. Comments welcome.

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By: HBC http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29353 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:09:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29353 Bertrand Russell put things quaintly in “The Problem of China” –
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13940

But nothing on earth – not even Bertrand Russell – can stop fearful people from fearing people from other cultures, no matter how much they could be learning from their encounters. And America has fearful people to burn, as these polls consistently show.

Empire down.

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By: PragashNair http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29349 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:24:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29349 America’s strength is its entrepreneurial spirit and freedom/capital is inevitable for its growth. Japanese strength is its community spirit, production is well suited to its culture and individual’s freedom is not a must to it. China’s strength is the will power of its man/woman and they are good at a spectrum of human activities. Pressure is just fuel for this will power. China is not a threat to any culture and its ability to absorb from other cultures while not losing its own is remarkable. I witnessed the productivity of average Chinese man and know it is above the average of world. But this is not true for less pressured Chinese origin people in free areas of the world. Cornering China would be foolish.
China is standing in the world with its pride. Question of whether it is 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 is just for entertainment.
Can we stand as equals? That is the bigger question.

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By: Ghandiolfini http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29345 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:11:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29345 pcasinelli: so these are the yardsticks and drivers of the global citizen ? No wonder things are not working out.

No military intervention is child’s play, it is NATO, not the US.

Maybe if we start focussing on value systems like the ‘most attractive country to live in’ or the ‘least corrupt’, that there will be a much needed paradigm mindshift.

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By: pcasinelli http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29342 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:00:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29342 China’s ascendancy is guaranteed: it has a huge population and impressive economic growth. However, this does not translate into geopolitical dominance quite so easily. China’s per capita GDP is sure to be extremely low for the foreseeable future, its military is powerful when compared to Vietnam, but child’s play when it comes to the US military. All in all, we should get used to a powerful China…but let’s not make it more than it is. For more see: http://www.philosoguy.com/13/dont-be-afr aid-of-china/

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By: Ghandiolfini http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/12/goodbye-america-hello-china-think-again/#comment-29341 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:34:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6735#comment-29341 Bernd: “About a quarter of the world’s economic output is produced by the United States, whose population is less than a fourth of China’s 1.3 billion.” – what exactly does the US export and how come it has this huge budget and trade deficit ? What does that say of its relative energy consumption ?

Voice of Reason says nothing, another crude media implant (CMI)? Kalada and An0nym0us says it all.

I doubt that the Chinese BubbleFreeMasons are meek and mild.

A ‘No 1′ society is driven by its coherent and binding culture and/or a strong and well managed autocracy. China has both, the US has neither, that is why bipartisanship had to become a (pirated) decree.

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