Comments on: iPhone app makes doctors iRate http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: MiniTruth http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-32295 Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:09:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-32295 Open recording of healthcare providers will result in one thing. Worse health care that is more expensive.
You are going to have doctors who are going to go by the book on everything. Only going to give you the FDA, standard treatment. Start low, go slow etc etc and order every freaking test known to man “just to be on the safe side ma’am.”

Whoever said there is no tort reform needed is crazy. Lawyers run this country. I am a malpractice lawyer and life is good. The public is stupid and easily fooled. Now that I am ready to retire, I am completely behind tort reform because otherwise this country will collapse under the weight of healthcare costs. Or you are going to see the best doctors only treat the richest…see concierge care.

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By: thinkmaw http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-30307 Wed, 12 May 2010 21:45:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-30307 As regards the UK, it looks like Nick Bostock from: http://www.healthcarerepublic.com/news/1 002363/GPs-warned-patients-recording-con sultations-posting-internet/
is on the right track.
Why on earth shoudn’t a patient be allowed to record the advice which, one way or another, heshe has paid for?

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By: Pheme http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29928 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:31:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29928 We in the UK complain about the NHS, but I cannot get my head around a healthcare system that allows a doctor to ‘fire’ the patient!

The British nurse in the original article, by the way, was re-instated after a huge public outcry and petition. The CEO of the hospital (where hundreds suffered and died unnecessarily) walked away without punishment with about a million pound in his pocket. No justice!

If you think your doctors are not accountable, it is the same for the UK. A doctor found guilty (it did take the authorities 12 years to achieve this, but only because the families didn’t give up) of killing a fair few elderly patients with diamorphine is still allowed to practise! Our NHS/stupid government even allows doctors from the European Union who hardly speak a word of English (European Law says it is not legal to subject them to a language test) to kill UK patients whilst they practise out of hours cover and get paid huge sums to boot.

Neither healthcare system sounds good to me.

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By: thinkmaw http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29893 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:19:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29893 ‘The call here should be in the hands of the patient, not the doctor.’ (Terry Norris, above). Well said, and a doctor with nothing to fear has nothing to hide.

I think there is an underlying ‘dynamic’ in the perceived problem: it represents patients’ taking an initiative as regards their own healthcare which doctors cannot ‘control’, and that just doesn’t suit some doctors’ sense of self-importance. Well, docs, I don’t see easy digital recording going away any time soon. Would it not be better to, er, grow up and get used to it?

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By: TerryNorris http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29744 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:10:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29744 In my opinion, every single word a doctor says to a patient should be able to be recorded. This is not about the risk of iphone apps but the privacy that doctors think they should be entitled to. The call here should be in the hands of the patient, not the doctor.

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By: epector http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29383 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:10:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29383 Recording a discussion with a health professional can be very useful for care, when everyone knows the recording is taking place. Then relatives who aren’t present when the discussion occurred can listen later to the what was said, and the patient can review it to understand the instructions better.

However, secret recording by patients who are just waiting for a mistake creates an adversarial relationship from the start. A good relationship with a health professional is based on honesty, willingness to follow recommendations, and trust in their skill and knowledge (or ability to refer elsewhere for the proper skill & knowledge). Secret recordings for litigious purposes is not part of that plan!

I totally agree with jason246 that most of the issues we see in health care today are influenced by lifestyle: obesity, poor sleep, stress, bad habits. We need a public health makeover on the order of what sanitation did 100 years ago for health. Get people exercising, eating healthy foods, etc.

The author of the article is charged with triaging patients to make sure that a precious resource is adequately and appropriately used by the patients who most need it. Another problem with the cost of health care in the country is the belief by many patients that they need, or are entitled, to the most expensive tests & drugs & treatment (or easy access to disability payments) without regard to cost. If they truly need it, fine. But trying to game the system to justify MRIs on the 2nd day of mild back pain, CT scans for every headache, or prolonged workmen’s comp payments hurts all of our fellow citizens in the long run.

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By: bcorner http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29382 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:41:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29382 To imply that doctors are just raking in the money is a huge misconception. I am not a doctor. But I know many. for a general practitioner it is not uncommon to have 50,75 or even $100k in student loans. A specialist can be a multiplier of those amounts. Add the cost of malpractice insurance, facilities etc and their monthly bills would blow most peoples minds. I have an Aunt that works in the Insurance industry. She has made it known that lawyers are out of control. I myself have experienced this. I had a guy run out in front of me doing 45mph @ night. He got a ticket for crossing against the light. He sued me for damages. even though I had an airtight case. The reason? the insurance company was afraid of the jury. So they settled for the maximum of my coverage.
Doctors are not mechanics, or accountants. How can we imply that they should be held libel as such.

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By: Jason246 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29380 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:14:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29380 I am a physician in the US. The vast majority of medical ailments in this country are a result of over-eating and unhealthy behaviors/substance use (high blood pressure, sleep apnea, heart failure, coronary disease, stroke, diabetes, kidney failure, emphysema, STDs). The treatment of these does not rely on medicine, yet on an individual’s self control and ability to keep a healthy weight and keep healthy habits. I have very little to offer for treatment other than information on how to live well — the “cure” resides in the patient’s behavior and willpower.
There is an unhealty expectation that for a $10 copay, one may be granted a miracle without any responsibility to help fix the problem – and without any regard for the limits of science and the power of nature (i.e. fixes for chronic medical problems in the elderly). Unfortunately it is this selfish and unreasable expectation of American society, not the unintelligent political arguments, that make solving health care so challenging.
The tone of the comments above are very hostile to physicians — yet, few professions have such tremendous responsibility and liability focused onto just one individual (and not diluted across a corporate organization). Those who quickly believe that the monetary reimbursement physicians recieve adequately balance that personal liability should pause.
Americans would have much more respect for their life/health/healthcare — and physicians rightfully held more accountable — if we extracted third-party payers from the equation and let individuals shop/pay for their care. This would help solve the problem mentioned in the first paragraph. Currently we have a system that works much like the morally deranged “bailout nation” our government has created over the last couple of years: those who are responsible paying for those who are irresponsible/corrupt.

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By: Anna123 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29379 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:00:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29379 Over the years they have had a lot of tort reform. I do not know of nor do I hear of any frivilous lawsuits.
This is just an excuse for eliminating a lot of tests.
This administration along the state of Texas feels that if people just drop dead they cannot have to worry about paying ss. and the medicare benefit can go to the young.
There is no real cure for cancer and I do not see the justification in eliminating screenings unless people are of a certain age.
Early detetection is the most important in eliminating cancer.

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By: Adam_S http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/03/15/iphone-app-makes-doctors-irate/#comment-29378 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:52:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=6743#comment-29378 Doctors perform a service, like anyone else, and should be held accountable if they make mistakes, as so many other people are, in the industries they work in. Tort reform is needed, yes, but if a medical practitioner, of any kind, is properly doing their job, they will have nothing to fear if they are voice or video recorded. The outrage is both hilarious, because it shows just how much the position of a doctor is elevated in America, and also telling. If doctors weren’t afraid of being caught making mistakes, there would be nothing to complain about.

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