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	<title>Comments on: The U.S. war in Iraq is over. Who won?</title>
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		<title>By: TommyVee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/03/the-u-s-war-in-iraq-is-over-who-won/comment-page-1/#comment-38767</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our goals were met. therefore the United States of America, NATO, and the International Security Assistance Force have meta victory in the no man&#039;s land out there in the east. Israel is sure happy about all the dead iraqis. iran is surely happy about all of the dead americans. so desicevly the US wo. get over it, liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our goals were met. therefore the United States of America, NATO, and the International Security Assistance Force have meta victory in the no man&#8217;s land out there in the east. Israel is sure happy about all the dead iraqis. iran is surely happy about all of the dead americans. so desicevly the US wo. get over it, liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: txgadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>txgadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel won the war.  Iran came in second.  The USA elite won trillions and the American people lost badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel won the war.  Iran came in second.  The USA elite won trillions and the American people lost badly.</p>
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		<title>By: gramps</title>
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		<dc:creator>gramps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..defense contractors won..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..defense contractors won..</p>
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		<title>By: zamana</title>
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		<dc:creator>zamana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 10:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shia won Saddam lost, good won evil lost but the price was great sacrifice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shia won Saddam lost, good won evil lost but the price was great sacrifice</p>
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		<title>By: breezinthru</title>
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		<dc:creator>breezinthru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halliburton won.

All the dead people lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halliburton won.</p>
<p>All the dead people lost.</p>
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		<title>By: drewbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America won.  Have you never seen the Mission Accomplished picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America won.  Have you never seen the Mission Accomplished picture?</p>
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		<title>By: jrpardinas</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrpardinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American working classes took it in the rear - but  nothing new there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American working classes took it in the rear &#8211; but  nothing new there.</p>
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		<title>By: mheld45</title>
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		<dc:creator>mheld45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author starts out with a quote from Sec. Gates (&quot;a man of sober judgement&quot;) stating that Iraq requires a historical perspective, but then he abandons this premise and reverts back to the familar &quot;democracy pipe dreams&quot; line. Evidently the author hasn&#039;t yet decided what he believes. 
As for the &quot;grand bargain&quot; with Iran, this is the proper context for pipe dreams, since this has been tried by previous presidents, most notably Pres. Clinton, only to be rebuffed by the religious radicals currently in charge of the country. The author should know that the mullahs of Iran have no interest in a grand bargain with the United States. Fomenting hostility towards the US is just about the only way to keep their dwindling number of domestic supporters, i.e. the thugs on the basiij payroll, in line. The Obama admin is taking positive steps with tougher sanctions and we should continue to apply the heat until this corrupt, autocratic regime collapses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author starts out with a quote from Sec. Gates (&#8220;a man of sober judgement&#8221;) stating that Iraq requires a historical perspective, but then he abandons this premise and reverts back to the familar &#8220;democracy pipe dreams&#8221; line. Evidently the author hasn&#8217;t yet decided what he believes.<br />
As for the &#8220;grand bargain&#8221; with Iran, this is the proper context for pipe dreams, since this has been tried by previous presidents, most notably Pres. Clinton, only to be rebuffed by the religious radicals currently in charge of the country. The author should know that the mullahs of Iran have no interest in a grand bargain with the United States. Fomenting hostility towards the US is just about the only way to keep their dwindling number of domestic supporters, i.e. the thugs on the basiij payroll, in line. The Obama admin is taking positive steps with tougher sanctions and we should continue to apply the heat until this corrupt, autocratic regime collapses.</p>
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		<title>By: creasybear27</title>
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		<dc:creator>creasybear27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone who goes to congress gets so much richer-you have to have money to win and get into congress and they just get richer-99.5 precent of them are highly corupt and work for where there getting money-if this system does not change all citizens but the 3% of rich will become subject of our government-we will become a cast people-rich or poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who goes to congress gets so much richer-you have to have money to win and get into congress and they just get richer-99.5 precent of them are highly corupt and work for where there getting money-if this system does not change all citizens but the 3% of rich will become subject of our government-we will become a cast people-rich or poor.</p>
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		<title>By: ginchinchili</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/03/the-u-s-war-in-iraq-is-over-who-won/comment-page-1/#comment-31952</link>
		<dc:creator>ginchinchili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What should be recognized as a seriously ominous sign for the future of the United States is that we allowed a President and his Administration to use propaganda in order to manipulate us into backing the invasion of a country we had no rational reason for invading. We weren&#039;t only pliant; we were submissive. There was very little opposition to this act of historic madness. It wasn&#039;t just President George&#039;s madness. We made it our own offense when we accepted and actually embraced the most serious action a country can take, the act of war against another country. 

Just a good and persistent sales pitch is all it took. There were a few intelligent and honorable Democrats who voted against the war, but most Democrats folded to the pressure of being accused of lacking the will to defend their country, of being unpatriotic, by the President, his war-obsessed Vice-President, and the entire Republican Party, who still won&#039;t admit that it was the wrong thing to do. They may well have lost their jobs, but is any job worth surrendering your self-respect, your honor, and your allegiance to God for? Is holding a seat in Congress more important than the lives of tens maybe hundreds of thousands of innocent people and our nation&#039;s credibility? Apparently, they think so.

What has become of us? Perhaps the more compelling question is, what will become of us? If it happened once, it will ineluctably happen again. That is unless we change, and we show no sign of that happening, except to move further down the path that brought us here in the first place. Act II may very well make the Iraq War look like a cheap warm up act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should be recognized as a seriously ominous sign for the future of the United States is that we allowed a President and his Administration to use propaganda in order to manipulate us into backing the invasion of a country we had no rational reason for invading. We weren&#8217;t only pliant; we were submissive. There was very little opposition to this act of historic madness. It wasn&#8217;t just President George&#8217;s madness. We made it our own offense when we accepted and actually embraced the most serious action a country can take, the act of war against another country. </p>
<p>Just a good and persistent sales pitch is all it took. There were a few intelligent and honorable Democrats who voted against the war, but most Democrats folded to the pressure of being accused of lacking the will to defend their country, of being unpatriotic, by the President, his war-obsessed Vice-President, and the entire Republican Party, who still won&#8217;t admit that it was the wrong thing to do. They may well have lost their jobs, but is any job worth surrendering your self-respect, your honor, and your allegiance to God for? Is holding a seat in Congress more important than the lives of tens maybe hundreds of thousands of innocent people and our nation&#8217;s credibility? Apparently, they think so.</p>
<p>What has become of us? Perhaps the more compelling question is, what will become of us? If it happened once, it will ineluctably happen again. That is unless we change, and we show no sign of that happening, except to move further down the path that brought us here in the first place. Act II may very well make the Iraq War look like a cheap warm up act.</p>
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