Comments on: Islamophobia and a German central banker http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: joego http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32497 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:08:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32497 We don’t want to have our freedoms taken and live in the middle ages with Sharia law. The more you know about Islam the more you can see it’s not compatible with freedom and democracy. Learn more at The Center for the Study of Political Islam and citizenwarrior.com. Or better yet read “An Abridged Koran” it’s about 200 pages or so.

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By: All_Hope777 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32317 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:32:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32317 I recently read the Quran cover to cover. I was shocked to find it filled with hate speech, racism, bigotry and the harshest form of suppression ever put to pen. I encourage everyone to read it and form their own opinion. Ever wonder why people are instantly attacked for saying anything against Islam…read the Quran ASAP!

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By: nossnevs http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32288 Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:55:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32288 Komment:
… “ethnic” means native, as opposed to immigrants who are not citizens. As to the shrinkage, there are projections that each successive generation will be around 39% smaller …

So, ethnic means native. Then how many ethnic Americans are left? It seems like America has done pretty well without them.
And again: Why can’t the Germans solve the problem by offering the immigrants (or Gastarbeiter) a realistic possibility of citizenship with the rights and responsibilities that come with it?

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By: Komment http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32276 Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:33:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32276 Nossnews: In the context of the Sarrazin discussion, “ethnic” means native, as opposed to immigrants who are not citizens. As to the shrinkage, there are projections that each successive generation will be around 39% smaller than the preceding one.

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By: nossnevs http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32267 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:29:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32267 First question: What is an “ethnic German”? Which Germans are not “ethnic”?
If you want immigrants to integrate, the first thing you need to do is offer them a well defined path to citizenship. The USA does that. You can buy a manual that tell you exactly how to become a US citizen in the nearest bookstore. Five years from the day you legally move to the US you can be a citizen, 3 years if you are married to a citizen. I went through that procedure.
In Germany there is no straightforward way. You can be born in the country and live there all your life without being a citizen or being encourage to become one.
Instead of giving immigrants a permanent permit to live and work in the country, and a path to citizenship, Germany branded them as “Gastarbeiter”.
Last time I looked, there were about 80 million people living in Germany. so how on earth can they be dying out????

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By: PeterMelzer http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32262 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:36:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32262 (Continued) By the way, Bernd, Sarrazin’s book seems so appealing because it deceives us with the explanation that the problems we are experiencing with immigrants are ultimately rooted in their genes. Therefore, any effort of integration must fail and any penny spent is wasted. Very convenient, isn’t it?

Rather than immigration, the dumbing down of Germany is likely the result of the embrace of superficial materialistic values after the Wirtschaftswunder, giving rise to today’s shallow Schicky-Mickey society.

Finally, let us not forget that the economic success of the U.S.A. has been, in good part, shouldered by the industriousness and ingenuity of her immigrants.

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By: aveiro http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32257 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:49:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32257 I think that the threat is not the Islamism neither the Mexicans, but the opposition of some social groups to adapt to the customs of the places they are living on. I was not born in US, but I have lived here for a year adapting myself to everything. Adaptation does mean that you need to forget who you are, but that you need to respect the other cultures and (at least) learn the local language. If people (from whatever culture) doesn’t want to learn the customs, then I think that they should lose some of the social benefits the country provides them. If they do not contribute to the development of the country…why are they here for?

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By: PeterMelzer http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32256 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:41:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32256 Germans invited Turkish nationals in the early 1960’s, when the country experienced full employment and needed more workers primarily in the manufacturing sector (difficult to imagine today). The recruitees hailed predominantly from impoverished and poorly-educated Eastern Anatolia. Turkey was fighting a Kurdish insurgency there and showed little interest in improving the lot of the locals. Neither the guest workers, as they were called in Germany, nor the hosts considered the arrangement as permanent. The workers wanted to improve their family’s lot back home and retire there. In fact, quite a few did. Nothing was done to integrate anyone.

However, for a large number of guest workers, life turned out different. They stayed much longer than anyone on either side had anticipated. The lot at home got worse. They brought their wives. They raised children and grandchildren in Germany. The latter were born into a situation in which they did not seem to belong anywhere. Sending them ‘home’ ? Where would that be? Offenbach! Kreutzberg!

The Federal Republic of Germany took great advantage of her guest workers when they were so direly needed. The Republic is obligated to offer their children and grandchildren a fair chance. The cause for the dour situation of Turkish guest workers in Germany is that they come from a part of the Earth where education is perceived as a threat to the traditional way of life. Opening access to education in Germany offers a way out. Nobody claims that this feat is easy.

Residents of Germany are required by law to send their children to school. If they don’t, they break the law.

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By: MarcL3 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32250 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:33:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32250 @ Sonnyjc9: In what way is Congress considering “giving” them what they(who?) want?

I think the quote by David Cameron in this article sums up what is happening. Multiculturalism inhibits social cohesion.

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By: bluemen http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/17/europeislamand-a-german-central-banker/#comment-32249 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:05:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8156#comment-32249 If Germans aren’t reproducing enough then some other group or groups must replace them. Fifty years ago these women were having big families, four kids or more. Today these women are having one or two.

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