Comments on: America’s Canadian road trip starts today http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KimoLee http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32499 Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:12:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32499 What the author leaves out is the plain fact that “around the world” whether you live in a capitalist society, communist society, or socialist society you are free to seek the medical care of your own choice, you just have to pay for it. American medical plans exclude all kinds of treatments on a variety of grounds, but mainly because they will cost the insurer too much, which means reduced profits.

Of course a government providing socialized medicine is going to try to keep costs down by rejecting costly treatments. There has to be enough money to go around right? The difference is that an insurer is going to try to make a “profit” not just break even. It is not fair to Americans to sell them “for profit” plans with high premiums and limited care. It is an obvious conflict of interest between the consumer and insurer.

American insurers have been spreading a bunch of baloney about how medical costs have increased so they have to raise our premiums. Do you actually know a doctor or two? Have you talked to them about that issue? Perhaps you should. Or perhaps they are sucking up all the little perks provider to favored doctors by drug companies?

The American doctors I know are not fooled by insurance company rhetoric and are pretty disgusted with the insurance industry. They make decent money and have not seen “their” costs rise. We talk about these very issues. They did not go into medicine to have insurance companies directing patient treatment. If you think that your insurance company has “your” best interest at heart when you have a serious and costly condition, I’ve got a bridge . . .

Get real. A sick person is just a liability in for profit America. Sick and cannot work because you got cancer? Bye, bye employer provided health insurance, you are going to lose your job, and without a job you cannot afford your insurance premiums. Next you will be on disability and then a liability for the rest of us tax payers. And without a job, the government will pay most of your medical because you “will” qualify for state or federal and programs which pay next to nothing to doctors. And you don’t think “that” is socialized medicine?

Healthcare in America is on par with healthcare in Estonia. Seriously. Research the issue. Get a passport. Travel around Western Europe. Actually see and experience the counties you are not familiar with.

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By: Donotlie http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32364 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:13:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32364 Sally, Why are you lying ? Is removal of Avastin, actually rationing ? If that is rationing what about AVANDIA. Stop lying, Sally.

Avastin has many side effects and that is the prime reason. May be, you should start taking it – and prove the world that Avastin is safe not words.

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By: peteypuck http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32357 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:26:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32357 I’m a retired Canadian who in the past, spent several years living in the USA, paying for a comprehensive healthcare plan. In my experience, it was expensive but delivered top notch coverage. However, it was in no way superior to the single pay system in Canada.

The thing that puzzles me is why the American right seems obligated to distort the facts and demonize Canadian healthcare. Why would Americans care how we run our affairs? Looks like wasted energy to me, with all the economic concerns on America’s plate these days. Over the long haul, Americans will get exactly the healthcare they deserve. Not Canada’s problem.

The substantial majority of Americans pitch infantile fits over paying taxes, but love their unfunded entitlement programmes. They also are delusional in the belief that privatized anything trumps responsibilities of the state. That would include national defence. Halliburton, and Blackrock, and Kellogg Root & Brown skimming hundreds of billions in Iraq come to mind.

By the way, how’s that WMD / War On Terror thing working out, America? Maybe you can hire some of those guys to pull your economy out of the ditch.

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By: donald4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32352 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:41:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32352 Mrs Pipes should apply for a position at the Fraser Institute? She worked there for 11 years before moving to the Pacific Research Institute.

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By: YoungTurkArmy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32351 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:19:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32351 I am 65 years old, living in Victoria, and have never had a single complaint about my health care. Ever. (This in spite of years and years of an unhealthy lifestyle.). Of course, I also try now to keep my weight under control, eat well, ride a bike, and exercise daily. I wonder how many of those snowbirds in Florida could say the same?

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By: idisagree http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32350 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:31:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32350 Wow, Sally you are plumbing the depths of deceit with this article. You cite a couple of anecdotal instances from a couple worst case scenarios versus millions of actual good experiences for us Canadians. Try some empirical data and facts next time. Our health care in Canada is not perfect, but no one sole in our nation has ever been refused treatment because they did not have insurance. Which HMO is lining your pockets?

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By: Fishes http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32345 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:56:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32345 “The new health reform law will not deliver the savings the president promises, will cost more than advertised, and will not achieve universal coverage.”

For someone that works at a think tank, you’d think she’d cite her sources, especially when making allegations of this nature. She should at least attempt to explain them in some way later on in the article, instead of asserting them as fact.

She throws around a number with no citation or even a mention of it’s origin and then uses the term ‘raid’ which is a very vague term, and probably intentionally vague.

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By: DrvandenBerg http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32342 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:24:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32342 The opinions of Sally C. Pipes, an American citizen who has shaken the Canadian dust from her sandals, on Canada’s health care system must necessarily be taken with a grain of salt.

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By: Andvari http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32341 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:23:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32341 Sally said, “If you think rationing like this won’t happen here, think again. It’s already happening. The Food and Drug Administration is currently considering revoking approval for Avastin as a treatment for breast cancer — despite the fact that it’s extended the lives of thousands of breast-cancer victims.”

How is revoking approval for a specific treatment rationing? She probably heard this her buddy Rush Limbaugh who falsely claimed that the FDA was going to pull the drug altogether. The FDA is concerned that Avastin may cause you to develop a hole in the wall of your stomach or intestine, and also might not be as effective as claimed by Lilly.

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By: JackMack http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/09/23/americas-canadian-road-trip-starts-today/#comment-32339 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:47:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8235#comment-32339 The way to solve the US healthcare problem is to start by revoking agricultural subsidies, the bulk of which fund our obesity and diabetes epidemics. Next, health insurance should be abolished altogether with the exception of privately-purchased catastrophic and long-term care plans.

The current system of private insurance is idiotic in the extreme. A third party (one’s insurer) stands between doctor and patient in every transaction, sucking value out of each encounter. Consumers cannot possibly make good choices about the cost and benefit of any treatment option, and doctors cannot price services at a level that serves patients and their own businesses.

The whole system should be chucked in favor of a purely cash-basis approach. Costs would decline dramatically, and people would become smarter, healthier consumers because it would be in their financial interest to do so.

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