Comments on: Postscript to California’s marijuana vote http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Ken_Estes http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-34513 Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:58:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-34513 Before we can even talk about legalizing marijuana in California and the consequences it may cause, we must first examine the legalization for medical use. We must not forget that California has fought to allow this medicine for medical purposes.

One must realize that the one who needed this drug first is ill patients.

As a Medical Marijuana patient, I believe that we must work together with the Government to control and tax medical marijuana first.

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By: earthshiva http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33499 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:40:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33499 Marijuana has been touted by its advocates as both harmless and also as a powerful medicine. Can both really be true? Its detractors see social ruin in expanded permissiveness, yet live in denial that our system already runs with no real controls. Both groups suffer from denial of their own fears and motives, and operate from a placer of illusion and hypocrisy. This is not a solid foundation for creating policy.

The harsh reality for California is that a unilateral policy change is likely to create upheaval in other states and around the world. I know many people who travel from New Mexico to California for seasonal harvesting jobs on so-called “medical marijuana” farms. Without exception, these people take a high percentage of their pay in product, which they then transport out of state to sell. Whether or not you think cannabis is harmless, whether or not you support such action as civil disobedience, the truth is the existing system in California is a sham that survives to a large extent on redirection of legally grown product to illegal trafficking. The medical growers see market expension in local legalization, but that expansion will naturally need to exceed California’s own borders. We will see competition with the existing Mexican cartels, increased drug traffic to other states and an increase in criminal activity nationally.

This is initiative, and its future iterations, is about big dollars. Anyone who thinks it is about supporting mom and pop growers is a fool. Any future iteration of a legalization initiative needs to address this realistically.

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By: dzoo35 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33494 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:19:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33494 In a nation rapidly attempting to move to figuring out a way to ban tobacco, further demonize alcohol, and attempting to equate advertising hamburgers to promoting national obesity-doesn’t it strike anyone as really odd that there’s a growing drive to legalize marijuana?

Oh, and having been nearly killed on highway 1 by a Rastafarian looking young man in smoke-filled Rav4 passing a bowl back to the passenger-yeah……keep dreaming on the whole driving delusion.

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By: captain_ahab http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33493 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 04:27:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33493 Capitalist Bagel wrote: “It’s easier for minors to buy marijuana than alcohol.”
What this statement tells me is that alcohol vendors at least have the sanity to restrain sales to minors.

Will pop-and-mom growers drive the drug cartels out of business, like some comments above say? Not a chance.
The most likely outcomes are more aggressive efforts to expand the user base, which may include “strategic pricing” (“try some for free!”), cultivation of young would-be pot-smokers (i.e. kids) and product innovation (some derivative that pushes the envelope on “legal use”), in my prediction.

The worst thing about marijuana, compared with the hard drugs, is that it’s difficult, even for morons, to OD!

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By: mheld45 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33479 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 03:16:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33479 Did I mention: Arnold Schwarzenegger, former Terminator and current Governor is a GIRLY MAN.

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By: mheld45 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33478 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 03:14:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33478 The most puzzling part of this whole issue is Schwarzenegger’s and Obama’s blatant hypocrisy and spinelessness. Both are well-documented users of marijuana. And did I mention Al Gore? What will it take for one of these guys to man-up and state publicly that the TIME HAS COME!! For Christ’s sake, what are they waiting for? Or what about Bill Clinton? Just one person of that profile will be all it takes. But again, they are spineless politicians, or, in Schwarzenegger’s case, a freakin’ GIRLY MAN! That’s right, Mr. Terminator, you’re a GIRLY MAN. GIRLY MAN. GIRLY MAN. GIRLY MAN GIRLY MAN GIRLY MAN

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By: timedonkey http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33473 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:55:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33473 Free citizens taking action that implies individual sovereignty, a higher claim that state law, federal law or international law. This is a revolutionary rejection of the power of the status quo to control the people by an arbitrary and capricious conspiracy of big world wide government and big business. Millions of folks voted for prop 19 just to get the cops to stop persecuting us and not one single politician support us. How represents us now?

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By: timedonkey http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33472 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:44:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33472 Free Market Hemp is the solution to our current economic crisis, industrial hemp can replace oil as a source of fuel, fiber, plastics, food, medicine and inspiration. The Tea Party is for Free Market Hemp and will join in the Voice of the People as we stand abar against the prohibition of our most valuable resource. Prop 19 showed our power and if focused on the upcoming 2012 elections can make the critical difference in what is sure to be volatile and up for grabs. We will support any candidate that supports Free Market Hemp. We will be the difference.
Plant It Everywhere, George Washington …

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By: sshurwitz http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33469 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:09:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33469 Any law that suffers from widespread disrespect by the people it is supposed to benefit is a candidate for change. The legal prohibition of cannabis is way past due for repeal, and has been defacto repealed by the behavior of both law enforcement and marijuana users.

Ironically “mom and pop” growers are happy with the current state of affairs since prices remain high, large corporate growers remain outside the business, and law enforcement is close to nil. The dark side of prohibition are its continued benefits to Mexican drug cartels who presumably will lose market share to California growers should decriminalization actually happen. The drug cartels are the bad guys in this scenario and for this reason alone the law needs to be repealed with all deliberate speed.

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By: hypodoche http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2010/11/05/postscript-to-californias-marijuana-vote/#comment-33467 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:50:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=8570#comment-33467 This story was a blatant attempt to coin a new phrase.

Schizophrenic pragmatism? Really?

I’m guessing you wrote a long essay on your SAT’s
/antipathy font needed

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